camping in ikaria
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, hiking | Tags: camping-in-ikaria, dreams, ecotourism, eleni-in-ikaria, freedom camper, freedom camping, ikaria, ικ, ικαρία, μονοπάτια, levitation, lonely-camper, my-idea, my-photo, stories, utopia | 25 Σχόλια »-
This is my
idea of “Camping in Ikaria”
SOMEWHERE LONELY HIGH UP AND AWAY FROM THE CROWDS AT THE BEACHES
I’ m letting you know because I don’t think I’m going to do this for the next couple of years at least. I don’t mind and it’s all for the best. Anyway, see you up there somewhere after 2008.
filakia

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Το τελευταίο τεύχος του περιοδικού ‘Ανεβαίνοντας’ είχε αφιέρωμα σε κάποιες light πεζοπορικές διαδρομές σε ορισμένα νησιά του Αιγαίου, όπως η Ύδρα, η Σέριφος και μια περιοχή κοντά στα Χανιά της Κρήτης. Ελπίζω την επόμενη φορά να αναφερθούν στα “βαριά νησιά” -στα νησιά με αρχ***- όπως η Σαμοθράκη, Σάμος και η Ικαρία που με τα πανύψηλα βουνά τους δεσπόζουν στις θάλασσες.
Από τα ψηλά αυτά νησιώτικα βουνά, εκτός απ’ τον Αθέρα της Ικαρίας, έχω ανέβει στον Άθωνα του Αγίου Όρους (αυτή τη χερσόνησο την θεωρώ ‘νησί’). Δεν είναι κανένα τρομακτικά ψηλό βουνό. Απέναντι όταν φαίνεται ο Όλυμπος, λες “πω πω να αυτός είναι όγκος και ύψος”. Όμως στα ψηλά νησιώτικα βουνά επειδή τα κυκλώνει η στιλπνή επιφάνεια της θάλασσας, νιώθεις απόλυτα το αίσθημα του ‘μετεωρισμού’ -ότι πετάς στον ουρανό όπως με ζέπελιν (αχ Ελένη!… χα χα) και τραμπαλίζεσαι. Στη Πίνδο που ανέβηκα δεν το ένιωσα αυτό. Ένιωσα μια τεράστια μουσική με πολλούς ισοκράτες (ωωωμμμμ κ’ ββββμμμμμ) να βγαίνει από παντού, αλλά δεν ‘μετεωρίστηκα’ όπως στον Αθέρα και στον Άθωνα.
Αυτά είναι τα μέρη για κάμπινγκ στην Ικαρία. Έχεις απόλυτο δίκιο. Οι κορυφογραμμές του Αθέρα και οι κοιλάδες ανάμεσά τους. Το κάμπινγκ για μένα είναι ‘χάσιμο’ και διαφυγή, όχι χαρούμενη, τάχα μου εναλλακτική κοινωνικοποίηση και κρυφτούλι με την Αστυνομία, όπως στη Χάλαρη κοντά στον Να.
Και για να μην νομίζεις Ελενάκι πως είμαι κάνας ήρωας, το έχω κάνει μόνο μια φορά όπως κι εσύ. Είχαμε μαζί μας έναν Ολλανδό, έναν μπαγλαμά και ένα σκύλο. Περπατήσαμε από τα Αμμούδια πάνω από τις Ράχες μέχρι τον Άγιο Ισίδωρο στο Πέζι. Στο ενδιάμεσο κατασκηνώσαμε κάπου βαθιά μέσα στην Εριφή. Ο Ολλανδός είχε τρομάξει. Ο σκύλος ενθουσιάστηκε. Οι κοπέλες ήθελαν ιστορίες με φαντάσματα. Τη νύχτα έπιασε ομίχλη και κρύο και αγκαλιαστήκαμε όλοι μαζί (και ο σκύλος) σαν αδελφάκια. Την άλλη μέρα φτάσαμε στον Άγιο Ισίδωρο και κάναμε ένα τρομερό γλέντι με τον μπαγλαμά και κάτι παϊδάκια που έφερε ένας φίλος με μηχανή από τις Ράχες.
Όταν νύχτωσε οι κοπέλες ήθελαν έρωτα. Εμείς ήμασταν ‘μετεωρισμένοι’ και δεν ξέραμε τι μας γινόταν. Δεν θυμάμαι πως γύρισα την άλλη μέρα σπίτι μου. Ήμασταν 23-26 χρονών. Ο σκύλος λεγόταν ‘Ζουζουρίνος’.
Friday October 27, 2006 – 08:51pm (EEST) Remove Comment
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wow ! nothing better than a clear-cut opinion by an expert, plus a story!!! What’s the Engish equivalent for μετεωρισμος -the “flying feeling” that you get standing on mountaintops overlooking vast sea surfaces? Is it “suspension”?
Hehehe… one more question : ok you became what you are. What about the others in that mountain trip group. What became of them? Did you stay in touch?
Saturday October 28, 2006 – 04:04am (PDT) Remove Comment
- greg
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Ignorant American does not understand. Wanna hear story!
Monday October 30, 2006 – 09:28am (PST) Remove Comment
- elle
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Does the word “meteorism” make any sense as a term describing the feeling one has on a mountain top (or range) and surrounded by blue-blue-blue, might this be the sea-fused-with-the-sky or sky and glaciers? The dictionary says it’s a Greek word deriving from “aiora” (eora), a word still used to describe the common swing -you know, the hanging chair or bench kids (and not only) love so much
Monday October 30, 2006 – 12:59pm (PST) Remove Comment
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Well, dear greg, the story was about a wild 3-day hiking trip along the Ikarian mountain range about 25 years ago when I was a student at university. Tomorrow when the month changes and Flickr allows me to upload more pictures, I will post a photo which tells a lot about the spirit of the group and the whole adventure in general.
Tuesday October 31, 2006 – 01:13pm (EET) Remove Comment
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Angelos, I imagine it was something similar to my hiking trips 25 years ago, or a few weeks ago, but will wait to see the photos.
Elle, I get an on-top-of-the-world feeling. Often in my head I hear Creams’ cover of the old blues song “Sittin’ On Top of the World.” Also often feel an extreme lightness, like I could float away.
Tuesday October 31, 2006 – 07:14am (PST) Remove Comment
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THAT’S THE FEELING! I knew you would say something like that. YES! I know the song.
Bye-bye, i’m travelling first class (oh yes sir!) by train to Greece tomorrow noon. Everywhere in the Balkans it’s raining. I’ll see the dirty old town Athens and I’ll cry like a stupid cow -I always do!…
(I’ll write from there)
Tuesday October 31, 2006 – 01:04pm (PST) Remove Comment
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I like that μετεωρισμος – I guess we get meteor and meteorology and météo from it – I like too that neologism “meteorism”! For me, though I know I should relish the “suspension”, there’s always a bit of vertigo, a frisson of fear. Is there a word – in any language – for that feeling that you might involuntarily throw yourself into the celestial void??
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- L. A
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this is an interesting conversation folks.
Wednesday May 14, 2008 – 10:26am (EEST) Remove Comment
- L. A
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I can’t believe it went thru..i’ve tried so many times before.
hi Eleni mou, edw Leda
Wednesday May 14, 2008 – 10:42am (EEST) Remove Comment
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Bά:)) Welcome into my junky cranky blog, Leda!!! Thank you for the comment. I hope you can find this entry again so that you can read my answer. Yes, the photo which obviously lead you here was taken after _ _ _ _. That is from last summer. As you have noticed I never and will never post photos of my son. He is sleeping right behind my back in the tent!!!
Do you find me fit? Not quite. Look carefully at the skin of my legs… (cracks and phlebitis – mmmmm)
~filakia~
Wednesday May 14, 2008 – 11:52am (PDT) Remove Comment
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Simon, I had missed your comment but I feel that too, there is no word for it that I know, but I think it is based on fear of fear, if that makes sense, and perhaps a curiousity about plunging into the presence that is the high mountains.
Wednesday May 14, 2008 – 01:03pm (PDT) Remove Comment
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i already have phlevitis and i’m much fatter than you dear..i’m afraid. Still you’re pretty good considering. (i’m taking meds so that has worsened things)
Wednesday May 14, 2008 – 11:31pm (EEST) Remove Comment
- AKK
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You witch! Making us all get back to your old entries…
I think ‘greg’ is right. Something to do with weightlessness. Frightening and exciting at the same time. Makes the closed circle of a tent set on high ground so more welcome.
p.s. phlebitis? I know what it is ’cause my mother had it. You don’t.
Thursday May 15, 2008 – 01:08pm (EEST) Remove Comment
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Τι γνώμη έχεις γι’ αυτό;
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=736682
Οι περισσότερες καταχωρήσεις είναι για την Ικαρία και το ελεύθερο κάμπινγκ. Βάζω εδώ το λινκ για να το έχεις πρόχειρο σε περίπτωση που θες να το προσθέσεις στο entry σου με τίτλο π.χ. ‘διάφορες άλλες απόψεις’.
Sunday May 18, 2008 – 09:36pm (EEST) Remove Comment
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Ναι, οκ, ομως ‘οι διαφορες αλλες αποψεις’ ειναι ουσιαστικα μονο μια: ‘Παμε να τη πεσουμε καπου και να ειμαστε ολοι μαζι’. Το σεβομαι και το καταλαβαινω ως tribal φαση εχει την αξια της. Δεν το εχω κανει ποτε, ουτε στα πιο αγρια χρονια της νιοτης μου οταν ειχα να δειξω και να αποδειξω κατι.
Όταν ειχα να δειξω και να αποδειξω κατι, το εδειχνα και το αποδειχνα στον εαυτο μου, αντε και σε 3-4 κολητους, καπου ψηλα, καπου μακρια. Κι ας μας επερνε τις μισες διακοπες για να βρουμε το σωστο μοναχικο μερος.
Οσο για τον θαυμασμο των μαζων… οκ, μπορουσαν μετα κάποτε αλλού … να δουν τις φωτογραφιες!
υ.γ. δεν ειναι περιεργο οτι σε ενα πολιτικο site σαν το indymedia (τους θαυμαζω) να γραφουν για το καμπινγκ στην Ικαρια; Οχι μανακι μου, η σκηνουλα μου δεν πολιτικο ζητημα. Δεν το δεχομαι.
Ουτε κι εσυ, αν πηδας τα βραχια ντυμενη μονο με ενα βρακι, ειναι πολιτικο ζητημα. Δεν το δεχεσαι -το ξερω.
Δεν …
(αστο)
Monday May 19, 2008 – 04:31am (PDT)
ΤΑ ΠΑΛΙΑ ΚΑΡΑΒΙΑ (…)
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, flying, photography, stories | Tags: adventures, aegean, cons-pirates, cyprus, dreams, genoese, greek-entries, history, ikaria, ελευθερία, ελληνικά-entries, ιστορία, poetry | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
ΤΑ ΠΑΛΙΑ ΚΑΡΑΒΙΑ
Ειδα τα παλια καραβια να περνουν
αρμενιζοντας κοιμισμενα σαν κυκνοι,
να περνουν στ’ ανοιχτα του χωριου
που και σημερα ακομα ονομαζεται Τυρος.
Φορτωμενα αιωνες βαρεις σαν μολυβι,
τις πλωρες τους βουτωντας βαθια,
τραβουν για Αμμοχωστο, για τον ηλιο
που κρυφτηκε.
Κανει τωρα την καταμαυρη Κυπρο
να παλεται μεσα σε λιμνη φωτιας.
Σιγουρα ηταν παλια αυτα τα καραβια -
ποιος ξερει με ποσα ρεσαλτα και βροντερες
κανονιες, ποσες φορες ορμηξαν κι αρπαξαν
μελαψους σκλαβους η πορτοκαλια της Συριας
οι Γενοβεζοι πειρατες.
Με βουρδουλιες τους πετουσαν ανασκελα,
μεσα στα αμπαρια, ανακατα αιμα, νερο,
φρουτα και πτωματα.Τωρα ομως διασχιζουν απαλα φιλοξενες θαλασσες με χρωμα
βαθυγαλαζο του πελαγου η γαλαζοπρασινο του γιαλου,
κεντημενες οπως τοτε και τωρα χρυσαφενια σταφυλια
και φυλλα αμπελιου.Tags: aegean, ιστορία, ελευθερία, genoese, cons-pirates, ελληνικά-entries, poetry, cyprus, history | Edit Tags Thursday October 19, 2006 – 12:28pm (PDT) Edit | DeleteNext Post: camping in ikaria Previous Post: Picture and Poem to match (October 08, 2006)
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1st I want to thank each one of the 10 voters who chose a colour in my previous entry -especially the 8 who chose my colour (which has no name). This of course was stageset by me (the clown, some say) and thank you very much for taking part. Who voted for “slave brown”?
2ndly, here I’m trying my hand in tranlating in Greek “Parnasian” (?…) poetry. Parnassus is a Greek mountain. How did I go? Angelos? Nana?
3rdly, the photo… ha ha… “The illusion of grandeur” ! I or one of my friends may write about it. I have no more space in this comment box.
Thursday October 19, 2006 – 12:38pm (PDT) Remove Comment
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9/10 !
Your verses don’t rime like in the original but your Old Ships have a better rythm and measure. I don’t know what poet you are; you sure are a singer, baby…
I-da tAa paliA ka-arAvia nA-a pernOUn
a-armeNIzontas sAn ki-misMEnoi KYknoi
Socratis Malamas style
p.s. funny painting;looks like from a ceiling; please someone explain; Genoese pirates boasting?
Friday October 20, 2006 – 11:33am (EEST)
Picture and Poem to match (October 08, 2006)
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, flying, photography, stories | Tags: aegean, agriculture, atheras, color-poll, colors, colours-poll, cons-pirates, cyprus, destiny, dreams, fournoi, genoese, history, ikaria, imperialist, το-νησί, αμπέλι, αναγνωστάκης, ιστορία, photos-flickr, pirates, poetry, terrasses, the-island, therma, vine, war, wow-photo | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
I have seen old ships sail like swans asleep
Beyond the village which men still call Tyre,
With leaden age o’ercargoed, dipping deep
For Famagusta and the hidden sun
That rings black Cyprus with a lake of fire;
And all those ships were certainly so old –
Who knows how oft with squat and noisy gun,
Questing brown slaves or Syrian oranges,
The pirate Genoese
Hell-raked them till they rolled
Blood, water, fruit and corpses up the hold.
But now through friendly seas they softly run,
Painted the mid-sea blue or shore-sea green,
Still patterned with the vine and grapes in gold.I received this poem as a comment by an Irish friend in one of my pictures in Flickr under the title “Redemption”.
In a few days I will have it traνslated in Greek :
“Ειδα τα παλια καραβια να περνουν
αρμενιζοντας κοιμισμενα σαν κυκνοι...”
(Ετσι, για να θυμηθουμε τους Παρνασιστες ποιητες. Και για να μη με αποκαλουν ολη την ωρα μερικοι-μερικοι, Μανω-λενη …Αναγνωστακη ! )
which colour is your favourite?
- Syrian orange?
- 0
- Mid-sea-blue?
- 0
- Shore-sea-green?
- 2
- Slave brown?
- 1
- Vine green?
- 0
- Grape gold?
- 0
- The colour of my photo?
- 9
Tags: aegean, atheras, ikaria, genoese, cyprus, colours-poll, imperialist, το-νησί, αμπέλι, αναγνωστάκης, poetry, the-island, therma, wow-photo, cons-pirates, war, agriculture, vine, terrasses, ιστορία, history, destiny | Edit Tags Sunday October 8, 2006 – 08:58am (PDT) Edit | DeleteNext Post: ΤΑ ΠΑΛΙΑ ΚΑΡΑΒΙΑ (…) Previous Post: “The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must”
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Smart poll that one, oh Parnassian… You’ve made us imagine and God knows how much we need colours!…
Try your hand with a translation. I’m very curious. Does the poem have a title?
Monday October 9, 2006 – 11:09pm (EEST) Remove Comment
- greg
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glacier blue
Monday October 9, 2006 – 02:44pm (PDT) Remove Comment
- elle
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glacier blue’s cool… tooo coool … brrr!…
Tuesday October 10, 2006 – 11:43am (PDT) Remove Comment
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xou-hartabar pok pok ? that’s a cool new link on your blog-roll! yes, “the wheel” has spun a goo-ood round!
May *the force* be with us…
Saturday October 14, 2006 – 09:47pm (EEST) Remove Comment
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Don’t know what color she was, but this stolen Aphrodite was Greek.
ROME (AP) – Prosecutors in the trial of a former J. Paul Getty Museum curator retraced the steps of an ancient statue they say was smuggled out of the country, and is now one of the most significant pieces in a dispute between Italy and the Los Angeles museum.
The prosecution presented testimony and documents reconstructing the route that the fifth century B.C. statue of the goddess Aphrodite took from Sicily to the Getty, which bought the piece for $18 million in 1988.
Italy has been cracking down on antiquities trafficking and campaigning to recover artifacts it contends were stolen or illegally exported from the country and sold to European and U.S. museums.
As part of these efforts, former Getty curator Marion True and American art dealer Robert Hecht are on trial in Rome, accused of knowingly trafficking in stolen artifacts. They deny wrongdoing. Their trial resumed Wednesday after a lengthy summer break.
Fausto Guarnieri, a former police officer, testified Wednesday that he first received anonymous tips in the late 1980s of the existence of a secret dig at Morgantina – the Greek settlement in Sicily where the “Venere di Morgantina” is said to have been found.
The tips came from illegal diggers angered that rival raiders had sold precious statues found at the site for a very low price, he said.
At the same time, as they prepared to acquire the Venus, Getty officials wrote letters to Italian authorities, inquiring if the statue had been stolen.
Guarnieri said that no connection was made then between the Venus and Morgantina, and authorities responded that the statue was not on their lists of stolen artifacts, but that they would investigate. Only a 1997 analysis of the statue confirmed it was made out of the same stone as fragments found in the Morgantina illegal dig, he said.
Prosecutor Paolo Ferri then showed the court documents from subsequent investigations that reconstructed the statue’s voyage.
A 1986 receipt made out by an Italian who claimed to own the statue says it was sold in Switzerland to a London-based dealer for $400,000 after “it had been in my family’s possession since 1939.”
Ferri suggested the ownership claim was fake, reminding the judges that 1939 was the year Italy passed a law making all antiquities found in the country property of the state.
Ferri also showed documents that accompanied the statue as it traveled from Switzerland to Los Angeles through London, noting that the weight of the crates carrying it increased dramatically with each step. He said this was an indication that the statue was sold in pieces at different stages, a technique smugglers use to get more money out of buyers.
Lawyers for True have always maintained that their client acquired this and other disputed pieces in good faith, without knowing of their supposed illegal origin. Defense lawyer Francesco Isolabella stressed that point while cross-examining Guarnieri on Wednesday, repeatedly questioning how Italian authorities followed up on the Getty’s original inquiries about the statue.
“From (1988 to 1997) they didn’t do anything,” Isolabella later told reporters. “They didn’t ask for the Venus back, they never asked questions on its origin.”
The fact that the Getty had made inquiries on the artifact and later made it available for the 1997 analysis was proof of the museum’s good faith.
True and Hecht were not in court Wednesday. Their lawyers said they could show up for the next session, set for Nov. 10, and would be available to take the stand.
The 7-foot statue of Aphrodite is only one of dozens of artifacts Italy wants returned from the Getty. Negotiations between the museum and the Italian Culture Ministry have so far failed to yield a deal.
Last month, Boston’s Museum of Fine Arts returned 13 disputed ancient artifacts to Italy in exchange for loans of other treasures.
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Oh another Aphrodite! Thanks Greg for letting us know. I’ll look it up on the net. We had elections in Greece and there was little else than politics in the press these days. Would she look like the Knidia or the Melian one? I hope she looks like the Knidia. She is our favourite.
Friday October 20, 2006 – 11:36am (EEST) Remove Comment
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Don’t know which, but anything Greek from the fifth century BC is historically mega-significant, since then was laid the philosophical foundation for western civilization, such as it is. Socrates, Sophocles, Plato, Pericles and all those dudes, they drank a lot of wine I bet.
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wine then was as important as petroluem oil today
Monday October 23, 2006 – 11:31pm (PDT)
“The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must”
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: flying, stories | Tags: aegean, athens, fears, for-ikaria, greeks-in-crisis, imperialist, πόνος, ελευθερία, melian-dialogue, resistance, strong-weak, the-island, thucydides, ugly-stories, war | 4 Σχόλια »-
Oh no. I’ve changed my mind. I don’t feel like and I am not going to write the story of sweet boy Glaucos, Cretan King Minos’ son, who drowned in honey.
Instead, I will tell you about the terrible fate of the Melians, the inhabitants of the island of Melos, who dared claim neutrality in a civil war. It was not because they were cowards; on the contrary they were the only islanders who didn’t surrender and opposed the Persians. The reason they didn’t want to fight with their allies, the Athenians, against the Spartans, was that unlike the Athenians and most other islanders who were Ionians, the Melians were Dorians like the Spartans. Greek can kill Greek and brother can kill brother; but in this case the Melians were asked to fight against themselves, against their own identity. So they pleaded to remain neutral.
Read the story
and then read THE MELIAN DIALOGUE, the debate between the Melians and the Athenians on the matter. It’s good drama. What the Athenians actually say is : “We are going to destroy you and we will spare noone; but before we kill you, you will have to understand perfectly well the reason why we will kill you“. And the Melians seem to say : “We know that we are as good as dead; but why not for a change instead of proving you are strong by killing everybody of us, why not for a change prove you are strong by letting us live in the way we want“?(If you have time to read the whole original Dialogue, search for the quote in the title of this entry. Look how and where exactly it drops in the text. What effect it’d create to your ears if you were a Melian?)
I hope one day Thucydides’ Melian Dialogue will be adapted and set on the scene succesfully.
But my ambitions are greater. They say that the constitution of the European Union will contain Pericles’ “Funeral Oration” on the benefits of democracy; I strongly believe that it should also contain the arguments of the Melians.
My arguments; the arguments of so many weak people I know.filakia
Elle
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“Might makes right!”
“Wait a second.. no it doesn’t!”
If there were any justice in the world, all imperial leaders would be forced to sleep with a copy of this dialogue under their pillows.
This was one of the first pieces of classical literature I ever read. It brought home the one reason I’m still studying the ancients, and in fact plan to teach this stuff for my career: Nothing Ever Changes. That’s not to say I’m a pessimist, but rather that there are universal elements of the human experience, and sometimes they were expressed best 2500 years ago. These elements, from Achilles’ rage to Dido’s tragic love, are what have kept me stuck in school for all these years.
Saturday September 30, 2006 – 09:24am (EDT) Remove Comment
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My old teacher Vidal-Naquet died recently. I was lucky to meet him again after many years in Ikaria. He had been invited to a conference on history and myths. I was told that he expressed the wish to visit again and spend a lot of time in Ikaria. Anyway what he always said was that the study of the classics helps a person committed to a cause become more relative and more profound in his/her ideas.
I want to add that Thucydides was FOR the Melians. Unfortunaltely we weren’t taught that at school.
I was told that Thucydides is taught as a course in the Mlitary Academies of the U.S. I assume it’s about strategics and that they leave this passage out.
(psst… El, what’s on your mind? a script?)
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The cat got his paws on a cockerel. “At last I’ve got you. You… you… wake up everyone far too early in the morning. Now I’m going to stop all your crowing once and for all.”
Although the claws of cat were round his neck, the cock managed to answer, “But actually a recent poll has shown the majority of people are grateful for a wake up call.”
“Well… don’t think you can reason your way out of this. I’m hungry, and the main thing is… I want a meal.”
And with that the debate was over.
I’ve just had a look at the Melian dialogue – it is sort of surreal – it must be the greeks and debate – why, before the age of mass media and spin – why when there will be no audience apart from the vanquished – why bother to reason?? The performance should have a comic edge I think.
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- oh, and dialogue lives on – my good friend ‘free gift that comes with the meal’ has just posted a third socratic dialogue on Flickr:
(The dialogue seems to be the thing, not the photos – I wonder if flickr are going to write and say “hi – although the commmunity guidelines don’t expressly forbit it, the hosting of long socratic dialogues is not its intended purpose. You will have to submit to our rule or have your account withdrawn…”)
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Typical situation “Shoot me but spare me the lecture”. Fortunately (for us) none of them was short of words and Thucydides was a top “journalist”. So a typical everyday situation became an *all-times-classic*. When someone to who a company is grateful*, refuses to do some dirty job which is against his/her principles, and so he/she gets fired, the attitudes that you see and the arguments that you hear are from the Melian Dialogue.
*** I all agree with Simon G. This is Black Comedy. Though no expert, I think this genre is the most difficult to put on stage.
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OH YES IT IS ! As ‘Simon G’ insinuates, the somebody has to be vanquished and that will be the audience for such a play. If I’m not mistaken, during the war Thucydides was busy being a general; he wrote his history later in his self-exile in Thrace after his home town, Athens was defeated.
Aristophanes on the contrary wrote and directed his comedies between battles and campaigns of that war. Lycistrata, The Birds, Acharneis – my favourites!…
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Tragic that we as humans have not learned a Goddamned thing in 2,500 years.
Write it Elle!
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Oh no greg! We have learned one thing : that we have not learned a Goddamned thing in 2,500 years.
ha ha ha
Somebody else said this -not me. Maybe a comedian, maybe a historian, I can’t remember.
I think I’ll try and do it. I’ll need to put on 3 hats : a lawyer’s, a comedian’s, a historian’s, plus some Aristophanic spirit “shoot us but spare us the lectures” (thank you Nana!)
Let’s change the subject because I don’t want to think about it now. It will be for after… you know.
Monday October 2, 2006 – 01:04pm (PDT)
It’s getting better all the time…
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, festivals, flying, hiking, photography, stories | Tags: circle, cons-pirates, good-conspiracy, hegel, herbs, history, ikaria, ikarians, άγγελος, ιστορία, links, my-friends, photos-flickr, progress, utopia, wildberry | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
I’m proudly presenting a jar of Ikarian wildberry jam (should I say ‘marmelade’?) sent as a gift for me by Angelos. I don’t put it on my bread; me pig eat it with the spoonfulls like a sweet. What talks had we with Nana and others in the club about those wildberries last February. Because February is the worst… The wildberry talk helped a lot. Wildberries bloom between the thorns of their mother bush in spring, the the fruit gets slowly ripe in summer : white, green, black.
(A very strong Greek myth about life and death and childhood is -among other things- related to wildberries. It’s also a famous enigma. No wikipedia link here. I assume you lettered people know this myth. In case you don’t, no problem; I will gladly relate it in some other entry.)
It’s getting better all the time…
In Ikaria the wheel has spun a joly good round.
While it was so gloomy when I first visited as an adult, now in Flickr for instance, you see albums likehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/19148949@N00/sets/72157594267814395/
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19148949@N00/sets/72157594268101010/
It’s not about the landscapes and seascapes. There had been great photos before and great minds behind the cameras. I mean the *new* young people and the ambience they generate. This is something new. At last!
For me these pages is the summer I missed.
Those pages is the bachelors’ party I will probably never have.
Those pages again are the faces I didn’t see when I first came to Ikaria. If I ever get married (*properly*), I’d sure invite them all.
I don’t know these photographers. I’m glad I don’t. The wheel has spun. We are in the same con-*SPIRA*-cy, (piracy?) but I currently inhabit a different quarter of the cycle (**). So the less I know the better.The wheel has spun.
It’s getting better all the time…filakia

(**) Instead of wheel and cycle, should I have written “spiral“, Pr Hegel?
(there are links hidden behind the blue letters in this text)
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So you remembered your pionneer days? At that time there was nobody. Then came Elvis and now you have the Beatles!
* It’s getting better all the time… *
What faces in your links ! Pr Hegel’s spiral winds our way now. But still we play “ladders and snakes”. But that’s fun!…
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Cycles and circles, they spin and always return to the start, you think you’ve been there before. When things were all wrong me brudda said “it will come full circle” and he was right. But then, did I not progress at all? Hopefully you end up where you started a little bit better all the time.
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Believe in progress? You do? Yes, so do I. Maybe a big lie, but it helps me get out of bed in the morning. Philosopher Hegel put it in terms of “thesis-antithesis-synthesis”; he probably had the same problem; looked for a motivation to get out of bed -:lol
Here in Athens it’s lightly clouded and wet in the mornings. My mood is the same.
Good to see the jam from the fruit of the thorn. You have powerful and influential friends.
The “faces” you link to : As they sit around and socialize in Messakti beach, they remind me of seals on some frozen shore of the arctics ! There is a lot of ritual involved in both seals and humans. Yes, it’s a con -*SPIRA*- cy. The island has improved.
(See? my mood is not all bad…)
On the other hand, I saw a new site about Ikaria, http://www.ikaria.gr/ . It’s Ikaria’s domain name, but I doubt if this site is representative of Ikaria. For starters, when you click the button “camping” in hope of getting a few useful tips, all you get is threats; mind you, not warnings, but real THREATS : do not camp because by such law the whole (!!!) island is an archaeological zone (!!!) and the police raids and persecutes campers every other day (!!!) This can’t be true and fortunately several guests in the site’s guestbook argue against this. “Don’t frighten the people” they say. “There is a lot of free camping in Ikaria and it’s ok as long as the campers respect the environment” . Most of them do now. I have seen it. So I assume the “ikaria.gr” admins own or are related to some big hotel and think campers as concurrents. How wrong! Pushed to the extreme it’s as if the automobile manufacturers said “Do not walk or ride bicycles. It’s illegal!”
Anyway the “you-know-who” camped nice and sleasy “you-know-where” in Ikaria last week. They saw no ancient pillars around and they saw no police. Everybody was very nice to them -as usual in Ikaria; reserved and nice : few words and occasionals bowls with grapes and cactus figs. Sweet September… *Lovely*
I became a member of deviantart.com. Not jealous of your glory in Flickr. I’m just testing the possibilities of the famous old photosite. My address is http://agrimi.deviantart.com/ It’s a free account of course. I doubt if I’m ever going to subscribe for a full account. Now Flickr is a 100 times better as a photosite. However, because Deviantart is much older, the archives are very interesting. I’ve been amusing myself trying to choose the 24 bestest photos taken in Ikaria (though w/o titles I can guess from the landscapes and the backgrounds) and I add them in “my favourites”. I have right to only 24 favourites; this is a challenge. Have a look.
Καληημεεερρααα…
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Can’t be progressive if you don’t believe in progress Nana. BTW, the Dene concept of chronology is more circular than linear, hard for me to wrap my mind AROUND that, but perhaps because of how they observed the sun and moon and seasons. Wet and gray in the mornings here too lately, summer seemed to end two weeks ago, but I buoy myself by the fact the rivers are up and the salmon are coming home. Sun, moon, seasons, rivers, salmon: cycles.
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This talking about circles and cycles brought to my mind that according to the Roman and Byzantine calendar, September was the first month of the year : “the begining of the Indices” = η αρχη της Ινδικτου : time to close accounts and plan projects. “Thesis – Antithesis – Synthesis” ; this is a very philosophical month. The new wine is in the jars; we ‘ve got to help it with good ‘n deep thoughts otherwise it will go sour.
filakia
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@ Nana : Υ.Γ. 1 εχω γινει χοντρη και μ’ αρεσει
@ Nana : Υ.Γ. 2 οτι θελει να ακουγεται “επισημο” ως Ικαρια (πχ. ‘ikaria.gr’) μοιαζει υποπτο. Σιγα τωρα… “ikaria.gr” … Γιατι; ο καλος τυπος που εφτιαξε το κλασικο www.island-ikaria.com πριν απο δεν ξερω ποσα χρονια, δεν ηξερε να κατοχυρωνε το “domain” ? Σιγουρα ηξερε. Αλλα δεν το εκανε. Αυτο κατι σημαινει. Γενικα οι επισημοτητες και οι τυπικοτητες δεν μας ταιριαζουν. Οταν βλεπω τετοια πραγματα, φυλαγομαι. Και στην Ικαρια αλλα και στην Ελλαδα γενικα.
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ok… ok… next thing for you is to write the myth. Let’s hear it. I think the colours of the enigma are “white, red, black”.
(I like your blog El. It’s like “Dialogues from Utopia” -minus the manifestos. Thanks.)
Thursday September 21, 2006 – 10:46pm (EEST)
*Archipelagic Metacity*
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, stories | Tags: aegean, architecture, bad-conspiracy, dig-dig-dig, islands, οικοπεδοποίηση, malakies, real-estate, suburban, suburbia, the-island, urban, vanity, venice | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
http://www.artbox.gr/venice_biennale_architecture.htm
boing! boing ! boing ! bang the gongs!WoW … so according to the Doge … ooops, sorry, I meant the Mayor of Venice and the big shot Greek architects who take part in the Venice Biennale, I’m spending my winters in a district of an *Archipelagic Metacity* !!! I’m crushed at the awareness. I’m speechless. Me who thought I had raised enough money to buy the land I wanted in Ikaria…
Now I have to rush and get it w/o bargaining; in case and before the *metacity* is established. Who knows where the value of land will climb when the news spread?
…………….
Ha ha ha… *Archipelagic Metacity* … What an illusion!
Do you remember my squalls? My squall photos? Now I am so glad I took them. A highly designed villa on hilltop may stand against such windblows, but what about its owners? They will have to shut themselves in their cellars in order not to go mad from the sound of the wind whistling through the aluminum window frames and booming over the roof.
And what about the *archipelagic metacitizens* hairstyles? How much fixer and hair gel will they need to hold it in shape?
What vanity. What a waste.
Whereas the old Icarians built their houses in deep dens. Wouldn’t they too have liked to enjoy the view? Of course they had. When they felt like enjoying the view, they just got out and went for a walk !………………..
Ha ha ha… *Archipelagic Metacity*
Luxury and classy “bunkers” for the nouveaux-riches to receive and coctail party other nouveaux-riches.
BEcause the AEgeAn is not a scattered city (!) … No matter how tasteful the architects’ creations will be. The AEgeAn is and it will always be……………..
I do have to rush though, and thanks Nana for reminding me. There is no space in *the barn* to raise a child.
Nope, I don’t want a house with a grand view !
Even if it’s so appealing, I don’t want it.……………..
*Archipelagic Metacity* ha ha ha…
pbnnn… pliich… nhmmn… I’d better try and stop laughing and post this entry now.filakia*
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Some of the central Cycladic islands, esp. Mykonos and Paros have so many houses on them that when seen from the air they look like cities. Now there is no more land available there (no water etc. either), so maybe these “Venicians” are up to moving to other islands.
However, there is a house in Ikaria, in the middle of the high plateau of Pezi, Rahes, that I liked very much. It was obviously designed by an architect and you know what? It doesn’t have a view to the sea!
Though it’s a big house you can’t see it. You mistake it for a rock. So there ARE good architects who know what they ar doing and good people who hire these architects.
Sunday September 10, 2006 – 07:07pm (EEST)
‘vRiLiSoS’ Nature Loving Society work paths
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, hiking, stories | Tags: canyon, Chalares, ecotourism, enviro-lore, environment, hiking, ikaria, βουνό, εθελοντές, μονοπάτια, mountaineers, my-friends, preservation, preserve, trails, volunteers, vrilisos | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
On the 26th August the Mad Outdoor Brigade are coming to do volunteer work in Ikaria again! I missed them last year; I’ll miss them this year too. But if YOU are in Ikaria from 26 Aug. to 3 Sept. YOU don’t miss them. Drop by and say hello to them. The same as last year they will camp in the public hall of the church Profitis Elias in Karidies village, Rahes.
GOOD LUCK

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They are not coming for charity or even less to “colonize” or connect or show off. They do it for themselves and nobody should be obliged. They are tired from doing trips and “consuming” places. It’s very significant for them to “leave a mark”. Mountaineers are very sensitive at that. In this case “the mark” is the paths.
Είναι μια τίμια ανταλλαγή.
Wednesday August 23, 2006 – 12:28am (EEST) Remove Comment
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Looks like fun. Wish I could have helped.
Elle, hope all is good with you. Thinking about you, sending positive energy your way…
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I’m not good with my hands but I’m great with team work esp. outdoors. I get inspired and talk so much that people loose their minds and forget if they are tired or not.
Thank you dear ‘greg’. I feel fine. I also feel the positive energy coming. I’m rather concentrated in myself these days. So I don’t communicate much. I just work and watch around (+watch my waist -used to be very proud of-disappear completely -lol)
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I hope there will be the right kind of people in the “mad brigade” this year.
Nan
ps. x x x x Elenitsa
Tuesday August 29, 2006 – 12:14am (EEST)
LINK WAR
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, flying, stories | Tags: aegean, bomb, flickr, fragitsa, imperialist, karpathos, Lebanon, links, resistance, sunset, the-island, ugly-stories, war | Αφήστε σχόλιο »
please include the sounds of :
airplanes running low
bombs (BOMBS!) going off in the distance and not so distance
the empty street under you window (though you do not come near the window as the next airplane or bomb may shatter it)
crying children all of a sudden left without their breast and the comforting eyes of their parents or.. water.
i don’t know if chemical warfare makes a sound..but you can imagine one i’m sure.
an ambulance carrying wounded being reduced to ashes
a milk factory, an airport, the road that would take you out of this hell, a….hospital being destroyed.
to the here and now of the quiet of your room
as your lover kisses your toe
as your child sleeps calmly on your side
as you shift your spoon in your coffee and look at your friends pictures…
please switch off cnn or abc or cbb or ght
and
please include the sounds of lebanon and palestine.
they feel alone.
but who am i to speak?
hear their own voices in your here and now.
here’s two to start with:
beirutupdate.blogspot.com/
glass-garden.livejournal.com/
and a place to start for more information:
www.electronicintifada.net/lebanon/
www.electronicintifada.net
a-mother-from-gaza.blogspot.com/
AND HERE IS ONE TO PUT A FACE ON FATALITY STATISTICS.
raytch.livejournal.com/
pictures from a lebanese refugee shelter… with people just like the one bombed in qana..with people just like you, me your child, my future (?) one.
how can one gather the strength to fight for a better world when We allow a refugee shelter to be bombed? and life goes on? ? ?
you’ll wake up in the morning and so will i..we’ll go to our jobs, joke with our workmates, order pizza, pump up some gas, go watch the latest movie.. while we allow them to bring the darkest of chaos to the lives of lebanese and palestinian people. for what?
f o r w h a t?
i don’t understand. call me naive. but i don’t.
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Have we become used to the Wars of America (is it America?…)and its allies? One war a year !.. This is the worst SOAP ever…
Skata! I’m angry. I’ll be furious Medea and I will NOT post any blog entries or Flickr photos until this stops. I’m standing by *FRAGITSA*. When she posts a new picture after the “Here And Now”, I’ll post new pictures of mine.
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That hard disk or CDs or whatever you keep your photos in, must be buzzing and sqweking; regardless of, I bet you will change your mind and post. YOU CAN’T HELP IT !
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I CAN help it, thanks. I’m not THAT BIG artist
BUT
1) ‘Fragitsa’ posted new pics.
2) I saw http://www.barborana.com/from_the_lebanese_people_to_the.htm
(what’s interesting and persuading about http://www.barborana.com/ is that it’s not at all political activist site -on the contrary!)
3) the goal of this mad war doesn’t seem to have been achieved.
4) one has to do what one has to do
So…
‘à bout de souffle’ and after my morning sickness (bliah..) and inspite of my recent irrational hatred for everybody and everything because I’m not supposed to smoke….
I’ll light a cigarette now and post NEW PHOTOS from Ikaria in Flickr.
ΦΤΟΥ :-
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ξανάρχισες το τσιγάροοοοοοοο??????????
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ναι/οχι/ναι …
(σε παρακαλω μπορουμε να μη μιλαμε γι αυτο το θεμα, γκκκρρρ …)
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Tuesday August 1, 2006 – 09:18am (EEST)
idio*sun*cratic
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, festivals, flying, photography | Tags: idiosyncratic, ikaria, individualistic, ήλιος, γάιδαρος, γαϊδουροκαλόκαιρο, ιδιόρυθμος, ιδιοσυγκρατικός, ικ, ικαρία, poetry, roberta, sun, sunset, tourism, tourist-season | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
This is a very idiosyncratic Ikarian sunrise. I’m not going to send it to Flickr. I feel that I’ve got to cherish my blog, my good friends and the curious visitors as well.
This is also a donkey-photo.
After July 20 it’s the *donkey-summer* = το γαϊδουροκαλοκαιρο. This is how they used to call this period in Greece. When only donkeys can stand the heat and the sun over their heads at noon. Then it was discovered that tourists too can do this, so the expression fell out of use. Now they call it “tourist season”.I’m no tourist…
I’m a donkeyHII-III-HAAA !!!…
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γεια σου γαϊδουρίτσα !
This picture is so good. Especially the lines, the sun rays, the shades, whatever they are. I’ll alter my professional “sun” logo (Flickr icon) to fit on this idio*sun*cratic. You will see…
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Which of us can forget that dawn? Thank you for cherishing us.
How about “idiosyncratic ikarian sunrise seen through a donkey’s ears”
(expressionism)
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hello elle, probably I’m also “idiosyncratic”: from Milan I love a far island. the colors, the scents, the situations have given me many emotions. then think that the tourists who come to ikaria are not “usually” tourists. also the Italians, the French and the Spanish who I have known to ikaria were interesting persons. less interesting and less “idiosyncratic” persons have rifared baggages the day after… ikaria is not a island for superficial eyes (who watches with attention the inside of the island loves it!).
robi
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benvenuta !!
How do they say in Italian “a prendre ou a laisser”? “To take it or leave it”?
It’s an expression from the trade business, when there is no margin for bargain, negociation and discounts. I have always thought of Ikaria like this.
A second thing, a new thing (thank you for reminding me Robi) is that with all the Spanish, the Italian, the French visiting, AT LAST Ikaria is connecting to the Mediterranean peoples. This makes a BIG difference.
I hope that some day it will go as well with the Turks. There have been some good signs.
my warmest *idio-sun-cratic* kisses (with extra *sun* flavour + grains of salt for you)
Elle
P.S. I’ll go on and write “Ikaria in winter”. Maybe I’ll get distracted from this and that -as I usually do- and I hope it will not be from anything bad (like the war in the middle east) …no matter what, but I will write it.
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“prendere o lasciare”“to take or to leave” it cannot be dealt, or in this way or nothing… yes, ikaria is hard in the first contact. it has not been folded to the tourists like other Greek islands that I have seen in transformation in the years. like amorgos, island that years before I thought wonderful. the slid year I found it transformed, tourist, all spoke English, sure also Italian… I don’t like! I love to turn for ikaria, with my dictionary of Italian-Greek, to speak with the old ones about the place, to participate to the cultural events of the population. I adapt to the island and not the contrary. this enriches to me. “cara” (dear) elle, I hope to come to find you this winter, to latest in spring. I teach you one Italian poetry for children, written from Gianni Rodari:
PROMEMORIA
“there are things to make every day:
to wash themselves, to study, to play,
to prepare the table
for noon.
there are things to make of night:
to close the eyes, to sleep,
to have dreams to dream,
ears for don’t feel.
there are things not to never make,
neither for sea neither for earth:
as an example the war. “
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thank you for the poem robi
i thought of my kids
P.S. Elle, be proud. Your blog attracts good poems. Do you keep count?
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they come in peace
Oh, I see we have a new italian friend! welcome Kali, I totally agree with you when you say that Ikarian tourists are not common tourists. There must be a reason why you choose Ikaria instead of Ios or Mykonos. And the reason is that you are looking for something else. Forget discos, crowded beachs, one night love affairs… welcome in the land of rocks & fairies.
People like this loves the island the way it is, so I don’t think they are the menace. May be the real threat is the way who manage the touristic growth of Ikaria think at them.
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the tourist business like any business works with models, stereotypes, averages, masses; when everybody, resident or visitor is individualistic (*idiosyncratic*), the business has a problem. One is looking for butterflies, the other is looking to drink and dance; one is looking for thrilling motorbike rounds, the other wants peace and sunsets. One wants to meet the locals, the other wants to rave. I’ve met people who came to rave and found themselves digging my land (everybody loves potatoes fried in good olive oil).
I think it’s because of the landscape. The French have a good word for it : “accidenté” (accidentual?)
Thursday July 27, 2006 – 01:55pm (PDT)
what it takes to stay in Ikaria “off season” (intro)
Δημοσιεύθηκε: Ιουνίου 30, 2009 | Author: Eleni | Filed under: choses vécues, exploring, flying, hiking, photography, stories | Tags: aegean, eleni-in-ikaria, flickr, idiosyncratic, ikaria, ikaria-in-winter, ikarians, χειμώνας, ιδιόρυθμος, ιδιοσυγκρατικός, ικαρία, maverick, my-friends, my-idea, up-with-lonely-winter, what-it-takes, winter | Αφήστε σχόλιο »-
My friend
Roberta , alias ‘gataki’ or ‘kalimera05′, founder of http://www.flickr.com/groups/ikaria asked me to tell her how it is possible and what it takes to spend a long “off seasons” time in Ikaria.
………………I’ll do what I can in my own personal way….
My own personal way… Well, well, well… που λένε και οι Αγγλοι…
Take for instance, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikaria
Another good friend from the groupwanted to update, improve and add material and pics, so I visited it very recently. I can’t say the old entry is all wrong… Most of it is accurate and at the same time much of it (towards the end of the entry) is like a page from a travel log :
A PERSONAL
OPINION !
I’ll do the same.I’ll initiate from that sweet wiki/ikaria and write my own personal opinion based on my own personal experience on what it takes to stay in Ikaria longer than usual.
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In tourist pamphlets, discussion forums on the net and in the Rough Guide, we read
“the inhabitants of Ikaria are idiosyncratic“
I can understand this word perfectly because it’s Greek (“ιδιομορφος”, “ιδιαζων”, “ιδιοτυπος”) . I also know a funny Latin equivalent : *sui generis* . A professor
at university used to call
me like that ! Like the “You Are One of a Kind” by INXS? I think/hope so.So… I’m conjugating :
I am idiosyncratic (ok this is obvious…)
You are idiosyncratic (sure you are if you found and read my blog)
He/she is idiosyncratic (no matter of, *people ARE NOT sheep*)
A sheep is idiosyncratic (just take it away from the flock…)……………
Try and stay in Ikaria a length of time outside the 45 days of the “high season” (15 July – 30 August). If you enjoy it, you are *idiosyncratic*. If you didn’t know and Ikaria gave you the chance to discover it, you may get a tin of honey as a present from me,
Eleni.Tags: ικαρία, χειμώνας, ikaria, ιδιοσυγκρατικός, ιδιόρυθμος, idiosyncratic, ikaria-in-winter, what-it-takes | Edit Tags Wednesday July 19, 2006 – 05:06am (PDT) Edit | DeleteNext Post: idio*sun*cratic Previous Post: “Time and local Identity” -short questionnaire
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- AKK
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1) yes the (perhaps too sweet) wiki/ikaria entry is a good start
2) I was sent your *idiosyncratic* camera and it looks repaired but not completely. Your *idiosyncratic* filters and settings are in and well locked. So I took and I’m going to post 3-4 *idiosyncratic* pictures of *idiosyncratic* subjects the same as you did. One of them very special, will be lovingly dedicated to you.
Wednesday July 19, 2006 – 11:39pm (EEST) Remove Comment
- elle
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1) you shouldn’t have used my green+yellow filters in a warm & strong Aegean sunset. The photos look like with tomatoe & peperoni sauce on them.
2) tHAnK yOu for …. You are such a sweet ASS !!!
Thursday July 20, 2006 – 01:24pm (PDT) Remove Comment
- Ψαλακ…
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>>”Most people who have been to Ikaria for any length of time do not want to leave, and, when they must, they dream of returning.” << That’s no personal opinion! That’s cold, hard, unbiased fact. I can’t tell you how much time I’ve spent staring at my computer as it randomly goes through pictures from Ikaria, longing to return.
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