Λιοτρίβι μολύνει ωραίο ποτάμι (TUGTII #8)


 

upstream trekking (2)upstream trekking (2), originally uploaded by egotoagrimi.

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angeloska says:

Πολύ ωραίο! Μου μοιάζει για Ράχες. Χάρακας?

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ikaria

This beautiful photo was seen in The Ikaria pool! Thanks for adding!
☺☺☺
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egotoagrimi says:

Δεν σου λέω!

Χάρακας


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Lambrini says:

😀  (για την απάντηση)

Πολύ όμορφο μέρος!
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egotoagrimi says:

για χάρη της Λ. που της αρέσει, θα πω ναι, είναι ο Χάρακας στις Ράχες και είναι μολυσμένος χειρότερα κι από τότε (να πάρει, δεν μπορώ να βρω το παλιό blog entry της Ελένης με τις φωτογραφίες) — γμ τα λιοτρίβια μου.
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angeloska says:

Κι εγώ δεν θυμάμαι να ήταν στο blog της Ελένης. Είχε βγάλει φωτογραφίες με τον «υπερτροφισμό» στον Χάρακα και τις είχε φορτώσει στο hikingIkaria>photos και ανοίξαμε κουβέντα. Κάποια στιγμή αργότερα πρέπει να τις διέγραψε. Πράγματι η κατάσταση είναι χειρότερη. Ξέρω γω, να κάναμε μια εκστρατεία πάλι; Όμως έχω κουραστεί μ’ αυτά.
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Α ναι θυμήθηκα. Κρίμα ένας μόνο ποταμός μολυσμένος στην Ικαρία κι είναι αυτός. Εσύ έχεις κουραστεί; Εγώ να δεις… Αλλά που θα παει. ‘Ολα θα φτιάξουν σιγά σιγά.
tag «blogged» κ «pollution» κ «river» και αρχειοθετήθηκε πάντως κι είναι οκ για «τις μελλοντικές γενιές» 😆
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Lambrini says:

Ευχαριστώ, Νανά, για την αποκάλυψη 🙂 λυπάμαι πολύ, όμως, που είναι τόσο άτυχο ένα πανέμορφο ποτάμι 😦 Εύχομαι πραγματικά να φτιάξουν όλα σιγά σιγά!

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isl_gr (away on an odyssey) says:

Karl is angry

Osmunda regalis

Read and take action.
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egotoagrimi says:

Τι άλλο να κάνουμε; Να πάω να βάλω βόμβα στο λιοτρίβι; 😮
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angeloska says:

Ξέρω ότι θα μπορούσες και μάλιστα να κάνεις να φανεί σαν ατύχημα. Ούτε να το σκεφτείς διότι τότε με την έκρηξη όλη -και όχι λίγη-λίγη- η βρωμιά θα κατέληγε στο ποτάμι.
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isl_gr (away on an odyssey) says:

Worse than the olive oil slick itself, is the thing that the oil does to the vegetation in the water.

     Charakas polluted 1
    Charakas polluted 2
   Charakas polluted 3
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Unfortunately true: Ikaria is not Costa Rica. Not yet at least. Maybe some day…
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angeloska says:

Αηδιαστικό. Που τις βρήκες;
Γι αυτό το λόγο μου έχουν προτείνει να μην περνάω το κεντρικό μονοπάτι μου από κει.

Όμως είναι ωραία εκεί κι εγώ από κει θα το περνάω μπα που να σκάσουν!

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Soul Powered Works & co (TUGTII #7)


Είναι Πάσχα και μου λείπει η Ελλάδα. Γι’ αυτό γράφω Ελληνικά σήμερα και μιλώ για τον Πράσινο Εθελοντισμό στην Ικαρία.

Να ο Άγγελος κι ο Γιώργος, οι ήρωες μια αφανούς μαγκιάς. Ντόπιοι με τη βοήθεια εθελοντών έφτιαξαν ένα χειροποίητο οικολογικό φράγμα στο φαράγγι της Χάλαρης. Το φράγμα σήμερα τρία χρόνια μετά ούτε που φαίνεται. Η όμορφη λίμνη που έχει δημιουργηθεί νομίζει κανείς πως ήταν από πάντα εκεί. Για τα τεχνικά και το χρονικό της κατασκευής η οποία τελικά πέτυχε, να διαβάσετε το blog της Νανάς. Εδώ αναπαράγω μόνο τα σχόλια που δέχτηκε αυτή η φωτογραφία όταν ανέβηκε στο Φλικρ. Είναι λίγα, νομίζω όμως πως είναι πολύ σημαντικά.

Angelos and Yorgos, originally uploaded by angeloska.

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Taasos says:

καπου κάπου πρέπει να βάζουμε και κανόνες αλλιώς θα τα καταστρέψουμε όλα σιγά σιγά και δέ θα υπάρχει νερό … Όπως κάνουν στο ποτάμι Καρλοβάσου και αντί να τρέχει το νερό στους καταρράχτες το πέρνουν και ποτίζουνε τα χωράφια τσάμπα…

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angeloska says:

Τι λες; Αυτά τα πράγματα συμβαίνουν και στη Σάμο; Ακόμα και στο πασίγνωστο Ποτάμι που είναι και τουριστικό αξιοθέατο; Είναι παράνομο όμως, δεν είναι; Απλά γίνεται ανεκτό. Τέλος πάντων, σε λίγο όταν η φίλη μου η Νανά ανεβάσει στο blog της όλο το χρονικό της κατασκευής του φράγματος, θα γράψω σε comment τα παραλειπόμενα αυτής της ιστορίας.

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Taasos says:

Κάποια στιγμή θα βάλουμε και εμείς μυαλό αλλα τότε θα είναι αργά…
περιμένουμε με ενδιαφέρον η Νανά να ανεβάσει και τα υπόλοιπα στο blog της…

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angeloska says:

Λυπάμαι που το λέω. Είναι ήδη πάρα πολύ αργά. Και ποτέ δεν θα βάλουμε μυαλό. Απλά 2-3 γέροι τρελλοί κάνουμε διάφορα πράγματα έτσι για το «γαμώ το». Βάλε και για να μη διαψεύσουμε τις ελπίδες της Νανάς και 2-3 άλλων τέτοιων χρυσών παιδιών.
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isl_gr says:

Just to warn you that Nana is waiting around the corner to scold you.

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angeloska says:

Just because I sounded a bit too pessimist? Was I not true? Look at what’s happening…


Μύθοι για την Ικαρία : Ο ΚΟΚΚΙΝΟΣ ΜΥΘΟΣ


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Η λογοκρισία στο προηγούμενο entry μας τσάκισε. Φαίνεται όμως πως δεν έχουν πρόβλημα με τις φωτογραφίες. Ορίστε, να μία. Είναι ένα κουλό σύνθημα γραμμένο σε βράχο στο βάθος μέσα στο φαράγγι της Χάλαρης. Οι πολλοί καπιταλιστές που περνούν από εκεί στο δρόμο για τις βρωμοδουλειές τους, σίγουρα το βλέπουν και τρέμουν. Θα λένε από μέσα τους, «Άντε να τελειώνουμε με την εκμετάλλευση και τη παγκοσμιοποίηση, γιατί αν αργήσουμε, την έχουμε βάψει«.
Είμαι σίγουρη ότι έτσι λένε.
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Θα δουλέψουμε εθελοντές πάλι φέτος.
Ορισμένοι free campers
θα μας γυρίζουν την πλάτη και θα μας λένε ‘κορόιδα’.
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χεστήκαμαν! 😛
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Μόνο με δουλειά κάνεις ένα τόπο δικό σου.
Smash smash smash
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Το έχω δει κι εγώ αυτό το σύνθημα και θαύμασα το θάρρος αυτών που το έγραψαν σε τόσο πολυσύχναστο μέρος με τόσες κάμερες κι αστυνομία τριγύρω.

Monday February 19, 2007 – 09:56pm (EET)

Παρολες «τις καμερες και τις αστυνομιες» (χα χα), λουστηκαμε πολλες φορες  γυμνες και ανενοχλητες στην ωραια αγγελολιβαδα που υπαρχει πισω απο το βραχο.

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Το συνθημα μας ενοχλησε μονο στο βαθμο που ηθελε να δειξει οτι το μερος «ανηκε» σε κάποιον -στη προκιμενη περιπτωση δηλ. στους αντικαπιταλιστες, αντιεξουσιαστες η οτι ειναι τελος παντων. Για μενα ηταν *tribal mark* και το διαβασα σαν *this place belongs to…*, *such and such have been here…* : γνωστες ανωριμοτητες
(τα ‘χω περασει κι εγω -μη βγαζω την ουρα μου απ’ εξω)
Ωστοσο απο σκουπιδια, ουτε ιχνος! Αρα υπαρχει ελπιδα. Οταν τους περασει το smash capitalism πραγμα, να γινουν ενταξει, να μαθουν 2-3 αλλα πραγματα και τελικα να το προστατεψουν αυτο το μερος. Νομιζω ετσι θα γινει. Η μηπως γινεται ηδη;

Friday February 23, 2007 – 12:55am (PST)


No Nature without Culture


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Ophelias

♦ This is the *Angelolivada* (river pool of 😳 angelic // XD diabolic fairies) near Nas.
This pool was my first introduction to the sweet waters of Ikaria several years ago. Then I got myself better shoes and found better places. But still when I see it I can’t help taking a picture.
This pool is *heritage* (because it IS haunted and legends about lethal encounters with fairies survive to this day).
This pool is a *sight* (seen from close, the fall is HIGH and the pool is BIG -even though it’s lost almost half its size from stones and earth sliding down from the road above.)
This pool is *sweet water* (rare stuff in the Aegean)
This pool is a *pool* (you can swim in it.)

It shouldn’t be left like this as if it was *nothing*. Yet it is. In spite it’s only 300 m. away from a small tourist resort, Nas. The beach of which is very small and unapproachable in high seas. To say more, it seems that people do their best to destroy it.
Yet the pool resists (because it IS haunted).

And Ikaria will probably always remain *an unspoiled island*, as the hotel & tourist promoter claims.
Unspoiled means perhaps that piles of waste and rubble, abandoned wrecked cars, forever unfinished contructions and weird contraptions everywhere, goats competing with earthmovers to *shave* the best places … for nothing … not for money …just for nothing …because someone had *small idea* and why not after all? All this for me is not *unspoiledt-ness*. It’s just *lack of communication*, *selfishness*, *ignorance* and *confusion*.
I wish we were a little bit *spoilt* into common sense.
Fairies can’t do all the job by themselves (+pay for beds+breakfast too?…)
Or perhaps they can; I wouldn’t know.

What I know is that
NATURE CAN’T BE WITHOUT CULTURE
(What we call *Nature* is a human invention, no?)
*NO CULTURE* or *WRONG CULTURE* = NO NATURE

«Sometimes I feel like a motherless child» again. (I was a motherless child)
Sometimes I feel I can’t return to *the crazy island* because there’s just the craziness and the fun is gone. But then again my heart is strong (unlike my mother’s) and the *good craziness* and the fun is in mE.

I am looking at the waterfall

I’ll deliver… 🙄

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(What we call *Nature* is a human invention, no?)

No I think not. It is what it is, completely indifferent to humanity, and so we destroy it instead of embracing it.

I have faith in you, since embrace it you do.

Friday June 16, 2006 – 07:45am (PDT)

To be honest El, we both chose to fall for a very compicated and difficult island and we suffer the consequences. How many times haven’t I told myself to fall in love with Mykonos/Ibiza instead. They are so easy like Lego and PlayMobil : white cubes laid on dry brown land and lots of (set up) parties with paid brazilian dancers…
But nooo ! Oooh, how deadly boring would that be !…

*Nature* is birth and death, both hardly conceivable. We see nature through culture. We used to have God to help us. Now we have to deal with it by ourselves. So culture becomes very important. But what am I talking about? Wasn’t it you who asked and received this genius answer about the mountains of Sezanne in southern France? His multiple paintings of the same and the same landscape actually saved the landscape. And we don’t have to discuss how heavy the building activity is in the South of France (no? -lol).
So go on being the Sezanne of Ikaria. Who knows? It may work.
As for myself I’ll go on digging and putting back the stones in place. Nail many signs too, so that you find your way and take your pictures.

P.S. good news ! ((: – I found an assistant – :)) It’s my 10 y.o. daughter. I pay her in ice-creams.
See her at work in my Flickr soon.

Friday June 16, 2006 – 08:58pm (EEST)

I knew of only one Cezanne’s «Montagne Sainte Victoire». The landscape could be anywhere in the Mediterranean, ok, but half of the results are Cezanne’s paintings. The rest are contemporary photos and other paintings.
(Any resemblance with Ikaria is purely coincidental)

That aristocratic *tall fat guy* Cezanne has really put a strong mark and actually saved that land -:)) He painted again and again the view from his villa and now the paintings have fused so much with the mountain (and the plain in-between) that nOoNe dAREs to touch this landscape!

See also : Wiki: Cezanne

I think they should teach this case in Fine Arts or Environmental Studies.
The tourist business (type «tourtour» -this is a village) benefited a lot and apparently many people find work. Cezanne has created a «tourist legend» too.

Is this *good machine», Nana?

Saturday June 17, 2006 – 12:44pm (PDT)

Bonjour *Paul(-ine) Cézanne* ! Comment ça va? 🙂
Oui, c’est une *trés bonne machine*. But people have to be informed and educated. And Ikaria is very unspoiled as far as this is concerned… 😦

Sunday June 18, 2006 – 03:14pm (EEST)

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14 May, 2006


My *Angel pool* – η Αγγελολιβαδα μου

dedicated Imageto the salmon, the eel, the mountain ash, the humanist Ψ, the angelos-x-angelos, the simon whose name means rock, the goat-simon-doctor.

So what happens if you survive the call of a nymph?
The weaker ones loose their speech temporarily or for ever. Some loose their minds too. But there are some cunning strong men who look at the nymph only with the corner of their eye -the corner of their mind- so they are not harmed. On the contrary they are given
*eloquence* :
ΕΥΓΛΩΤΤΙΑ

Why am I not funny today and I speak like a drunk Image? Because I am drunk Image(slightly).

Today was St. Isidoros day Image(big day marked with a red circle in the local agenta of events) and my birthdayas well.

Thank you.
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Auguri Elenuccia!

Sunday May 14, 2006 – 07:50pm (CEST)

Χρόνια Πολλά, ρε θηρίο ανήμερο.
Το δώρο μου το άφησα στον Άγιο Ισίδωρο και σίγουρα το βρήκες.

Congratulations for the Ikarian Angels’ pools, too. I’m amazed that though in a murder mood because you are leaving (don’t deny it), you go on giving. Toro, OLE !

Sunday May 14, 2006 – 09:36pm (EEST)

Hronia Polla Eleni!

Sunday May 14, 2006 – 11:09pm (BST)

Thank you everybody
Σας ευχαριστω ολους

Monday May 15, 2006 – 02:52am (PDT)

Belatedly, happy birthday Eleni, you are a special soul.

Monday May 15, 2006 – 07:27am (PDT)

Aww geez, I spend one day moving and packing for my trip, and I miss your birthday, El! Just my luck. Well, happy birthday anyway! Much luck back on the mainland, and don’t disappear completely!

Monday May 15, 2006 – 02:21pm (EDT)


*2 uUNdrowned Ophelias*


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intervening shot by angeloska on Flickr
…ooooImagejjhh… THE rIVer pooLS of MAy & jUne
*Angel pools*
*Fairy pools*
ΖΗΤΩ οι «Αγγελολιβάδες» ΤΗΣ ΙΚΑΡΙΑΣ
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ophelias.

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Homeric Hymn 5 (to Aphrodite) 97ff.
ἤ τις Νυμφάων, αἵτ᾽ ἄλσεα καλὰ νέμονται
ἢ Νυμφῶν, αἳ καλὸν ὄρος τόδε ναιετάουσι
καὶ πηγὰς ποταμῶν, καὶ πίσεα ποιήεντα.

σοὶ δ᾽ ἐγὼ ἐν σκοπιῇ, περιφαινομένῳ ἐνὶ χώρῳ,
βωμὸν ποιήσω, ῥέξω δέ τοι ἱερὰ καλὰ
ὥρῃσιν πάσῃσι.

(my translation)
«Perhaps you are one of the Nymphs who inhabit the beautiful glades,
Or one of those who dwell upon this beautiful mountain or at the sources of rivers or in grassy meadows.

I will build you an altar high on a promontory, in a place easily seen from all around, and I will make beautiful sacrifices upon it every season.»

Perhaps one of those heads belongs to my namesake, Ψαλακανθα, who after all, was one of the Naiads of Ikaria 🙂 (http://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NymphePsalakantha.html)

ps: what does «αγγελολιβάδες» mean? «angel-fairies»?

Tuesday May 9, 2006 – 07:13pm (EDT)

>>cool Schubert’s bums<<

(and because of Ψ who has Homeric stuff like that always handy, I’ll post a short lecture on «angelolivades» tomorrow. It’s basically «women lore» so I may be wrong, but I’ll just say what I know. If I am completely wrong, put the blame on Ψ.)

Wednesday May 10, 2006 – 10:55pm (EEST)

God damn, sounds like a place I will have to visit. Don’t go crazy and kill yourselves Ophelias.

Wednesday May 10, 2006 – 07:17pm (PDT)

Sure, AKK, blame everything on me. Is the pool in the photograph on your excellent list?

Thursday May 11, 2006 – 12:24am (EDT)

In the Ikarian dialect «livada» means «pool» or «pond». A «livada» can be a small rainpool in the street, a large river pool and even a lagoon at the mouth of a river.
All the deep dark pools in the rivers are named «Angel’s pools», Angelo-livades. There were 2 reasons I got interested in them. First, my name is Angelos ! Second, the first time I swam in one of them and I proudly announced it in the village, I was stared at as if I was a ghost and asked : «Did you survive?». That was about 30 years ago. I was thrilled and was determined to find out what lay behind this.
So I pressed and insisted on my father who grew up in Ikaria in the 1920s when «all that» was alive and the myths were facts. Later he became a historian but always kept a great love and good taste for folklore. According to him:
1) An «Angel» is a fairy; not a nereid (which is actually a female spirit dwelling in the springs and sources), but a nymph.
The «Psalakantha» story in Psalakanthos’ link makes sense. There are so many pools in Ikaria, hence as many nymphs.

requiescat in pace

2) The Ikarian mothers invented all sorts of stories to frighten their children away from these pools (not to play, swim or sleep around them). They didn’t want them to drown or catch pneumonia -which was a deadly disease before antibiotics. So the originaly benevolent Angel/Nymphs were calumniated and presented as monsters. They were supposed to mesmerize their victims with reflections and colours and so drag them to the bottom (where there would be palaces and treasures etc. etc.), but in fact they were turned into slaves etc. etc.
3) The Ikarian mothers of the old times were very heavy labourers. But before that they had been young maiden too. By inventing the legend of «evil pools» they were protecting a secret of their own adolescence : they visited these (hardly accesible) places and swam ! If they were seen, well… it was not a teenage neighbour Maria, Eleni, Anna, but NYMPHS = terrible «angels» -stay away, stay away; turn your eyes and leave at once or you don’t survive !

Myths were so practical in the times before plumbing, bath tabs and showers … especially before the invention of SHOWER CURTAINS !

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Thursday May 11, 2006 – 01:02pm (EEST)

Hippie Island! ☀ @Ψ : the pool in the photo is one under # 4 in the list of pools of msg 637
( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hikingIkaria/message/637 ) This particular «Angelolivada» is very well known. It was the first I ever swam in (and «survived» !) The photo flatters the pool. Now after the contruction of the road above it, it’s left with only 1/3 of its original size. Besides being near the road, it’s too near Nas so it gets crowded in summer. It’s like an annex to the beach. But it’s still ok as an introduction. I suppose this is why Eleni chose to put this photo in this entry. Maybe because it’s the most known pool, so readers would believe her.
Some other shots of pools in «Lower Chalares» (near Nas)are in:
the hikingIkaria group

Thursday May 11, 2006 – 01:09pm (EEST)

yeah, we are nymphs, *Schubert’s bums* (I liked that -lol), fairies with i-pods. This *good machine* is our secret. We walk listening to music. We don’t talk. Do you know how far *no talking* can get you? We talk in the evening.

Eleni is uploading some photos in her Flickr -artistic as usual. Sorry, no *Schubert bums* in them. Our own beauty would defocus the viewers from the beauty and the complicated-ness of the settings. Currently neither of us is looking for mess around with boys and absolutely not on the net.
«Στη λίμνη τη βουνίσια … τραλαλα» hip hop

Υ.Γ. δεν με πειράζει το περπάτημα και το ξέσκισμα στα αγκάθια, μόνο που πιάστηε ο κ**ς μου καβάλα στο παπάκι …

Thursday May 11, 2006 – 10:21pm (EEST)

love Schubert -hate hip-hop. Sorry youngsters…

Thursday May 11, 2006 – 12:52pm (PDT)

This angelo-livada is so known that me too swam in it (and me too survived). No sounds but the whisper of a thousand «cicades». Floating in the water as a turtle, my breath took the same cicades rithm, my lungs did the same sound of the wings of a dragonfly, I moved slowly as one of the big fishes wich live there, naked as an eel.
Naked and naturally happy as all the nimphs who, only then I realized, were there, hidden by shadows and lights, breathing at the same rithm of cicades, doing the same sound of the wings of a dragonfly, silently listening at Schubert with their i-po(n)ds.

Friday May 12, 2006 – 02:07am (CEST)

WHAT A GREAT SCRIPT FOR THE NEW APPLE COMMERCIAL! I’ll purpose it them, but may be I’ll prefer Mendelssohn’s «midsummer night dream» music.

Friday May 12, 2006 – 02:15am (CEST)

I saw your latest uploads («aque dolci») in Flickr. Very difficult takes ! Who am I to admire most, the amateur trekker or the amateur photographer? I can’t decide.

Friday May 12, 2006 – 01:54pm (EEST)

the *invisible* people salute the return of Jimmy. They’ll remain invisible and won’t bite the bait (for an Apple commercial, a Timotei commercial, or an «Ikaria» commercial). We will remain invisible. We have already given too much. Others should come now and populate our landscapes with bodies and faces.
Like http://www.flickr.com/photos/38852820@N00/
-ooohhh it can be much better…

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