‘The Hiking Trails of Ikaria’ – illustrated interview by OPS Ikarias


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In life it's not where you go but who you you travel withHello readers! 

You know that my blog likes interviews and this one… well, it’s a good one because it’s like a documentary! I mean that you can just stare at the photos (loads of them) streaming over the questions and answers, only that I thought that the context was interesting too, so I got into the trouble to translate the whole thing in English and then I sent it over to be added as subtitles to the video on youtube. Which video is an illustrated version of an interview to my good Ikarian friend, Angelos K., founding member and representative of the Mountain Climbing and Hiking Association of Ikaria (OPS Ikarias), by Babis Kokosis for «The Hiking Trails of Greece» a regular radio show on «The Voice of Greece», the international Greek state Radio (ERA 5). Unlike what you might have expected, the pictures do not show landscapes and trails and maps and stuff like that but people!
As the introduction goes:

«The photos showing in this video made by OPS Ikarias were taken along our various hiking trips and many other activities in the nature of Ikaria from 2008 to 2016. They are a tribute to our older and newer friends and members of the Club who walk and enjoy the island’s fascinating landscapes and take part in the club’s projects and activities. They are our inspiration and our one and only support. This video is dedicated to them!»

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***Find button to turn on "subtitles". Seen best in full screen mode!
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You can read my translation of Angelos’s radio interview by opening this link to OPS Ikarias Google docs. The interviewer introduces the show like this:

«Today we will visit Ikaria, an island that has managed, in spite of the growing tourist development, to maintain a big part of its cultural traditions.
The natural particularities of Ikaria are many. They are shaped by the geographical features and the position of the island in the Aegean Sea. Ikaria consists of a long mountainous mass stretching from east to west forming a ridge with heights over 1000 m. and separating the island in two sides: the northern side with mild slopes, forestlands and abundant waters, and the southern side with stony grounds and steep slopes. Therefore, it displays an impressive variety of landscapes and natural sights which the visitor can discover by following its numerous trails while getting in touch with its history and the legendary particular way of life of its inhabitants.
Let’s find out a bit more about the hiking routes of the island as well as what a hiker may encounter in them through our talk with Mr. Angelos Kalokairinos, representative of the local Hiking Club.»

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And if you are a Greek reader you can check out the original transcript in this link.

The video, seen best in full screen mode, it goes without saying, includes a selection of pictures from the Flickr Album: «Mountain Climbing and Hiking Club of Ikaria».  I have exercised my influence 🙂 and gotten a specially coded link so you can see all the pictures -not only the public ones. So take advantage of this privilege and enjoy an amazing slideshow! But if you just like a quick view, here is the album straight out of Flickr:

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Mountain Climbing & Hiking Club of Ikaria, a set on Flickr

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Ikaria, May 14 2016
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Gathering samphire at the brink of the waves


 

 

Hello readers!
I am publishing here a translated version of a recent post from lifo.gr firstly because  Lefteris, the hero of the article,  is a «new Ikarian» who, the same as Xenia, happens to be a member of KANGA, the partnership of local guides which I wrote about in April, and secondly because I think that what he does, besides being a guide, is very interesting. Lefteris is a modern food gatherer, specializing in samphire. He has been gathering  this tasty and nutritious wild plant which  is very abundant at the rocky shores of Ikaria, since he moved to the island nine years ago. In the following interview given to Dionissis Anemogiannis in June, Lefteris talks about his work, about the value of «kritamo» (samphire or sea fennel in Greek) and about living -and making a living-  in Ikaria. Not only have I tasted his delicious little jars, but I also totally agree with his opinions.  I wish him the best and I hope that you too, after reading the article, will share the same feeling. ^^’

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There something in this view which hides in the many hillsides of Ikaria, those dressed in olive trees and those which are barren, full of rocks, something that sounds like a call repeated with the voice of the cicadas. Sometimes it is the echo of ourselves as we long for relaxation, for a humane way to live our of lives. Sometimes it’s just the rough beauty of the landscape and the unworldly silence which we forget encaged as we are in greyness and noise. To such a call Lefteris Trikiriotis responded when he took the desicion to leave Athens and move back to the island of his ancestors to seclude himself in an old stone house inside the gorge of the river Charakas in Rahes. After years of experimenting and familiarizing himself with everything that nature provides, Lefteris feels that he has succeeded in his purpose: to content himself with little and to live from the land, through gathering and through culitivating one of the less known treasures of the land of Greece: samphire.

lifo.gr: About Lefteris and his work in Ikaria    

«With nutritional and therapeutic properties acknowledged since antiquity samphire is a wholesome aliment, secret of the Mediterranean gastronomy, able to add taste to almost everything.»

Samphire («Kritamo» in Greek) is a succulent plant which grows on the coastal areas of the Mediterranean. In the Greek kitchen it is used to garnish dakos or as a base layer for cooked fish, usually processed as pickles. However, Lefteris’s wild samphire isn’t pickled. The fleshy leaves of the plant are seasoned in a mixture of wine and vinegar which keeps them fresh and highlights their intense and crisp taste which has a distinctive bitterness in the background like the taste of wild green herbs of the mountain. With nutritional and therapeutic properties acknowledged since antiquity samphire is a wholesome aliment, secret of mediterranean gastronomy which can add taste to almost everything. During a break from his work which in this time of the year keeps him busy for more than 12 hours a day, we talked with Lefteris and he shared with us his tastes, his thoughts and his goals, making come alive in frontt of us a sustainable solution to the crisis: the model of «undergrowth», which is about men and women who pursue a new relationship with themselves, with nature and with money.

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— Lefteris, how did you decide to move to Ikaria? How difficult/easy was this decision for you?
«I grew up in a small «Ikarian colony» in the neighborhood of Perama near Piraeus but I didn’t live all my life there. I moved to the island where my family comes from when I decided to resign from a well-paid job in an industrial environment in the summer of 2005. After I spent one year in Crete working as a book peddler, I visited Ikaria on holidays as I was doing almost every summer, and a sequence of events kept me on the island till today. In the nine years that I live here I have done many jobs, as it is usual in Ikaria, among them herb gathering and outdoor guiding. It wasn’t difficult for me to go on with my life outside Athens. I followed my inner voice and allowed myself to shape the course of my life in the way I felt and not in the way imposed to me by the model of modern consumer society. As I left Athens I knew only one thing, that I didn’t want to work as an employee for any financial compensation whatsoever as long as that choice was against my conscience and did not cover the needs of my soul.»

— How did you decide to start cultivating and gathering samphire?
«For many people in our country the environment is like the black box of an airplane. When I started to explore the island as a professional guide as well as for pleasure, I came to discover a literally new world. My gradual familiarization with plants brought about the first tastings and the first attempts to process local products; one of these was samphire. I adored this plant as it is durable and thrifty and I believed that I could work with it towards practicing a successful trade in the long term. Later on, after research and trials in reproducing the plant, I made sure that it can be multiplied, so at a certain point I decided to try to cultivate it with the help of my companion and a friend.»

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— What does someone need to cultivate samphire and how easy is it to find it in the wild?
«One needs to know the existence and the edibility of this self-sown summer herb and to afford to be as crazy as to cultivate something that noone else cultivates. In some islands of the Aegean and coastal areas of Greece and the Mediterranean it grows in large populations, while in others it is found only scarcely or not at all. I just happened to have frequent encounters with the particular plant which grows along a good part of the rocky coastline of the island.»

— Which are the difficulties that a modern food gatherer may encounter?
«The profession of the food gatherer is rare, more or less vague and undefined by the law, while its insecurity makes it difficult to provide a long term viability to anyone who is interested in this business. Also, bureaucracy does not allow the unobstructed practice of this particular activity as there is no national administrative plan for wild nature in Greece. As a result, even when someone wants to practice food gathering lawfully with responsibility and respect, he or she faces intractable deadlocks. Thereupon one needs to have imagination and decisiveness to create a living space that hasn’t been anticipated or classified by the authorities. One also needs to wrestle against several imaginable or unimaginable public services with totally rigid and outdated mindsets. Practically, the profession requires a deep love and respect for nature which offers generously to us rich sources of food inside its various ecosystems. One can find many of these ecosystems even in a small island like Ikaria. To become a food gatherer you have to explore a place for years, you have to experiment and to taste the various self-sown edible plants of the place. The wild herbs, fruit, crops, mushrooms, bulbs and even seaweed may give you new ideas about our diet and about new cultivations. Especially in Greece where we have one of the richest floras in Europe in relation to the size of our country, there are many species of plants waiting to be discovered and put to value.»

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— What is your daily routine on the island? Can you describe an ordinary day?
«There is no ‘ordinary’ day on the island, and by this I don’t mean that there is no repetition. In Ikaria, like everywhere in the countryside, life follows a more natural course depending on the season, the agricultural activities and the whims of the weather. A winter, for example, can be rainy and windy and the result sometimes is that you have to stay indoors for days or weeks. Food gathering is not a routine job and I chose it against the advice of friends and relatives. When someone chooses this profession there is no pay safety. On the other hand, there is enough freedom so as to be able to improvise, to go on working with joy and to shape my daily schedule at will. The culture of a simple way of life and the pursuit of quality leisure time are two keystones which characterize to a great extent life on the island. I share this point of view with my companion, so for the last two years we have lived together in an old stone house inside an olive grove in the gorge of Charakas river. This particular time of the year I am working more intensively and I don’t have time to think about a lot of things. However, there are times when the machine crashes and then we escape for a while to some beautiful lonely cove or to some natural pool of one of the many rivers which carve the slopes of the mountains. After working hard I usually look forward to going back home to see the progress of my vegetables, the fruit trees in the orchard and to hug with my companion. I am looking for some rest and the company of my friends to end the day smoothly until the following morning when hard work will start again. The thought which often comes as a capping stone of all this effort to cover my financial needs is to ask for the least and content myself with little.»

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— How would you characterize life on the island?
«Life in Ikaria is hard, difficult on the economic side but rich in the social side. Its rewards are scarce but they keep you alive and of course, the way someone will experience a place depends mainly on his or her personality and not on the social environment. Walking through a foggy forest of perennial oaks, hunting mushrooms in a cloudy autumn morning, is enough to bewitch you and make you risk everything to stay there forever. Every place has a lot to offer, natural landscapes, social relations, pleasures, hardships, as long as you decide to expose yourself to the place and experience its qualities.»

— What are your plans for the future?
«After nine years of hard work every summer I would like to find some time for a holiday at the end of August. I also intend to add more seedlings of samphire to the plantation that I have started. I want to build a house with natural materials to shelter my flesh and fashion the land around it to make it suitable for permaculture.»

— How do you like to eat samphire?
«Raw, the moment I gather it, with salt to add to the taste and with iodine to color my fingers. Also, fresh steaming hot together with vegetables from my garden, with natural rice or cereals, inside a simple tomato salad with a lot of olive oil and lemon, in a quick omeletith fresh eggs from the vagrant chicken of my neighbor, or in a fresh sasandwichth kathoura (fresh local white cheese from goat milk) and tomato, minced into a puree of legumes (split peas, broad beans, chickpeas, lupins, etc.»

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You can find the Wild Samphire of Ikaria in selected stores around Greece. You may also purchase it Ikarian e-shopfrom ikariastore. You may contact Lefteris Trikiriotis at 6974042417 or his facebook page. The photos of the article are by Niko Dayandas from his film «Little Land» produced by ΑΝΕΜΟΝ. You can download the film from here.

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Μύθοι για την Ικαρία : Ο ΚΟΚΚΙΝΟΣ ΜΥΘΟΣ


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Η λογοκρισία στο προηγούμενο entry μας τσάκισε. Φαίνεται όμως πως δεν έχουν πρόβλημα με τις φωτογραφίες. Ορίστε, να μία. Είναι ένα κουλό σύνθημα γραμμένο σε βράχο στο βάθος μέσα στο φαράγγι της Χάλαρης. Οι πολλοί καπιταλιστές που περνούν από εκεί στο δρόμο για τις βρωμοδουλειές τους, σίγουρα το βλέπουν και τρέμουν. Θα λένε από μέσα τους, «Άντε να τελειώνουμε με την εκμετάλλευση και τη παγκοσμιοποίηση, γιατί αν αργήσουμε, την έχουμε βάψει«.
Είμαι σίγουρη ότι έτσι λένε.
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Θα δουλέψουμε εθελοντές πάλι φέτος.
Ορισμένοι free campers
θα μας γυρίζουν την πλάτη και θα μας λένε ‘κορόιδα’.
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χεστήκαμαν! 😛
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Μόνο με δουλειά κάνεις ένα τόπο δικό σου.
Smash smash smash
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Το έχω δει κι εγώ αυτό το σύνθημα και θαύμασα το θάρρος αυτών που το έγραψαν σε τόσο πολυσύχναστο μέρος με τόσες κάμερες κι αστυνομία τριγύρω.

Monday February 19, 2007 – 09:56pm (EET)

Παρολες «τις καμερες και τις αστυνομιες» (χα χα), λουστηκαμε πολλες φορες  γυμνες και ανενοχλητες στην ωραια αγγελολιβαδα που υπαρχει πισω απο το βραχο.

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Το συνθημα μας ενοχλησε μονο στο βαθμο που ηθελε να δειξει οτι το μερος «ανηκε» σε κάποιον -στη προκιμενη περιπτωση δηλ. στους αντικαπιταλιστες, αντιεξουσιαστες η οτι ειναι τελος παντων. Για μενα ηταν *tribal mark* και το διαβασα σαν *this place belongs to…*, *such and such have been here…* : γνωστες ανωριμοτητες
(τα ‘χω περασει κι εγω -μη βγαζω την ουρα μου απ’ εξω)
Ωστοσο απο σκουπιδια, ουτε ιχνος! Αρα υπαρχει ελπιδα. Οταν τους περασει το smash capitalism πραγμα, να γινουν ενταξει, να μαθουν 2-3 αλλα πραγματα και τελικα να το προστατεψουν αυτο το μερος. Νομιζω ετσι θα γινει. Η μηπως γινεται ηδη;

Friday February 23, 2007 – 12:55am (PST)


Legends about Ikaria : THE RED MYTH


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THE RED MYTH

(an interview with Doubting Thomas)

Old communist man proudly singing songs

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Let’s cut this short. Are Ikarians anarchists and commies?

– Impossible to x-ray minds. All I can judge upon is what I see. And all I’ve seen on the island is small private property owners, farmers, shopkeepers, craftsmen, journeymen and many jacks-of-all-trades.

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But all three Mayors of the island are supported by the Communist Party!

– I happened to meet them. I saw three mild and complaisant middle-aged gentlemen. If they had long beards and wore black frocks they would be like clergymen. And like clergymen they deal with the problems: they talk long and discuss. As Doubting Thomas I appreciate discussions very much. Evenmore when there is wine involved.
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Which by the way happens to be red.

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– It’s also very strong and sometimes too rough; as strong and rough as the natural profile of the island.

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Speaking of the natural profile of the island, isn’t it true that in the mountains of Ikaria you may meet old people who speak like bolsheviks?

– It’s true that I’ve met some old farmers who spoke like Bolscheviks. But the question is : do they behave like such? I doubt so. The bucolic surrounding just didn’t fit. The bolsheviks I met were all regular churchgoers, for example. And that’s how I met them: in church. I saw them and listened to them from my icons in church. I was puzzled on how honnest they were; so, to shed some light onto the matter,  I read «Rebels and Radicals», a book on the recent history of Ikaria. xxx xx xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxx   I was very disappointed. I didn’t read anything about bloodsheds. There was a lot about starvation, migration, deprivation, but only a few rebel acts. In a book with a red cover and a hot title, I expected an occasional massacre, a couple of mass executions, prison camps, bloody uprisals. Yet there was very little -if none at all. Given that Ikaria was involved in one way or another in every major event of the last two centruries, at a certain point I got suspicious -as if the writer had supressed information. Not that he actually did. What I mean is that I was surprised not to find a lot of violence through the pages of that book.

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hammer under sickle by angeloska on Flickr

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How do you explain this?

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– I’m not here to explain. My job is to doubt. I thought we had agreed that this interview would not follow a «cause – effect» course.

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Oh sorry, Mr Thomas; I forgot myself.

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– Don’t apologize. I understand your need for explanations. So here is a hint: «when elephants quarrel, ants suffer».

[xxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxa  the red hammer & sickles and the black «Smash Capitalism» slogans all over? Somebody would say t xxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxx  violent ants.
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– Is anyone scared? This is the question. Bankers and industrialists never visit; nor are there any resident bankers and industrialists. Who are these slogans supposed to -allow me the expression- scare the xxxxxx out of? If you ask me, I must see confiscations of private property, collectivization of the land, community-run hotels and restaurants, ban of free trade and profit, replacement of forests with sovkhoze plantations, hydroelectric dams; or show me some tourists who got  xx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxx  Only then will I see Ikaria as a Red Rock.

 by fliegender  by fliegender Ikarians land on the moon (ΟΠΣ Ικαρίας 013) by angeloska Ikaria, Griechenland September 2007 by Steunerin on Flickr

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This is scary! As far as I know nobody wants to do these things in Ikaria -for real at least.

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Seeee?.. It’s a Legend !.. Somehow your island, the name, the landscape, the wine, has the inherent ability to generate this type of myths. You must be aware of this and take measures. Now with the globalization [xxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxx  turning more and more xxxxx xxxxx to the left, you will have more tourists xxxxxx xxxxxx.
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Measures? Like what?

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Keep the prices low; build campings; look after the nature. This Red Rock thing is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[ xxxxxxxxx people want to believe it -for the be-best, or the wo-worst. So it’s up to you. You can make it work for your own good.

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Oh Mr Thomas, you are so cunning and practical!

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– Of course I am. I am a saint! Have you forgotten?

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(F[xxx ! This interview was censored as soon as I uploaded it. The reason is that [xxxxxxxxxxxx . The   [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  are responsible for this. xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxx I am very sorry about it. Read through behind the black tapes using your imagination. That’s what’s all about, isn’t it?)

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Girl inside Thorns by egotoagrimi  Athina Sk.


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I had an uncle exactly as you describe. His family used to be well-off in the times of prosperity when the islands had trade with the Asian coast. But when I met him he was just a poor farmer. He dreamt of the coming of the worldwide revolution that would unite everybody equal etc. When we had a family reunion in Ikaria, they sent us kids away after lunch. Then my father and my old uncle sat down in private and counted the possibilities…
I evesdropped many times to know what they were talking about. It was deadly boring. Yet I was impressed by their knowledge of the world politics. This was in the middle of nowhere … you know where. My uncle was the sweetest little man. And the palms of his hands where like a stone out of labouring the earth all his life.
The world revolution never came. But my uncle died (falling off a fruit tree) thinking that it was about to come. He saw around and found that conditions were improving. People were coming and going, there was more money, cars, telephones, etc. This was enough for him. In fact the «world revolution» he dreamt of… he was in it already 😀

Thursday February 22, 2007 – 10:49pm (EET)

KKE in Seychelles beach, Ikaria typical story :: thanks for adding 🙂

Friday February 23, 2007 – 12:57am (PST)


Legends about Ikaria : THE MYTH OF ICARUS


 
(An interview with Doubting Thomas)
THE MYTH OF ICARUS

Is Ikaria the island where Icarus fell?

I can’t tell you. I hadn’t been born yet and there is no video-tape of the accident. The nearest we have to a video is Brueghel’s painting but this is not enough evidence. It’s a painting made in Holland thousands of miles away from the Aegean, many centuries later. Though it’s a fact that it looks like those amateur videos that are focused on an innocent scene and accidentaly captured a tragedy. Then they become famous and their makers sell them to the media for a lot of money. It could be a video, but it’s not. It’s an oil painting -a artistic fancy, in other words.

Yet people say that’s where he fell.

People say a lot of things. For example in every encyclopedia and guide book we read, «Ikaria, known from the fall of Icarus, e.t.c.» People love to be told stories especially when accidents are involved.

Yes but what about the name of the island?

Oh, names may mean something or may mean nothing. We can go to the registrar and change our names according to our fancies and make various connections and associations. Or without changing the name, we can change it’s meaning or it’s origin to suit our convenience. For example, there is a Greek island called Karpathos, that is, it’s got the same name as the Karpathian mountains in Transylvania, Romania. Now the Karpathians (of the island) are free to associate the name of their island with Dracula; to claim, for example, that the mountains of Romania got their name from their island; evenmore, that Dracula was born in Karpathos and after having sucked all the blood out of the inhabitants as a kid, when he grew up, he flew (he was a vampire) to a larger place with a larger population and an endless supply of blood. Nevertheless, today, even if the Aegean Karpathians had thought of doing this, they are too late. The Romanians have taken every advantage of the tale already and Dracula’s castle is the biggest tourist attraction of their country. There would be a huge diplomatic clash between Greece and Romania, if the Aegean Karpathians claimed their island as the birthplace of Dracula. There is so much money and prestige involved, you see.

So the association between Ikaria and Icarus is a lie?

I don’t say it’s a lie. All I say is I don’t know. There is no video and there were no reliable eye-witnesses, BBC, CNN, SKY NEWS and so on. Maybe there was an amateur video (by a cousin of that plower in the painting, for example) or a pilot shot for a documentary on a rustic subject; because it had captured «The Fall» it survived till the 16th century and that’s what Brueghel saw and he made the famous painting. All I’m saying is that we must find and watch the original video to be sure of the fact. For example, something like this.

 

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Next week a new episode of the interview with Doubting Thomas.
Subject-matter : «Ikaria political« : Red Rock, Dry Rock, Devil’s island, Island of Exile

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Yes, we must definitely find the Icarus video. I am also interested in the videos of other high flyers such as Abbas Ibn Firnas, Leonardo da Vinci, Hezarfen Ahmet Celebi etc. I looked at youtube but none is available. Leonardo’s depiction of the Icarus accident is a collector item and would be OK instead of the original video. I wonder if Doubting Thomas has seen any of those?

Tuesday February 13, 2007 – 04:56pm (EST)

Keep looking. Doubting Thomas is right. In the times we live, what’s not on a photo or a video, just doesn’t exist!..

Thursday February 15, 2007 – 01:14am (PST)

that’s interesting to know that… will browse thru youtube and dailmotion to find anything on this… and add it to my documentary collection @ http://iamyuva.wordpress.com/documentaries

Wednesday February 21, 2007 – 07:54am (GMT)

THE IONIAN MYTHS
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Related to: «Icarus in the pool»
http://www.flickr.com/groups/ikaria/discuss/72157603772508112/

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The Myth of Icarus, the flying man, belongs to the ‘Circle of Theseus’, which in its turn belongs to a larger group of closely related myths, all of them being the foundation of the Ionian Greek heritage and identity.

In simple words, to know these myths meant that you were Greek.

Though it is certain that the Ionians conducted savage warfare against the Carians, the Cretans and other peoples who inhabited the coasts of the Aegean, their myths speak very little about it. They speak about achievements of the mind instead; ingenious devices, machines, new political ideas (‘the city-state’ for instance was supposed to be Theseus’ invention), new kind of ships (‘the 50oared that could sail against any sea current), new gods like Dionysus who was –what else?- the difficult art of wine making and drinking personified or rather deified, as it should be.

To know these myths meant that you were Greek.

Thursday January 24, 2008 – 10:59pm (EET)

To know these myths meant that you were Greek.

It is very interesting how little magic is involved in them. For example, in the myth of Deadalus and Icarus, unlike the similar myths about flyers from Persia and India, we are told bluntly that it was enough for a man to glue feathers with wax to make wings and fly away! We are not even told that the flyer had to move his arms very fast! Isn’t it absurd?
There is no magic and yet, there precisely lies the magic. The myth is a challenge to the mind. How on earth did Deadalus and Icarus do it? How did Theseus come up with the idea to seduce Ariadne and how did she come up with the idea to give him the string, Ariadne’s clue, to find his way in the Labyrinth?

These are logical myths. Their purpose is not to make you stand in awe but to make you want to do the same.

For example, you see that you weren’t able to fly with feathers glued with wax tied around your arms? Your head is in bandages? Don’t worry. Blame Dedalus who probably knew a few tricks that he didn’t say. But if you were patient enough to do all that feather and wax and leather straps work, if you were as crazy as to jump from a high place trying to fly, you can build yourself a nice little boat now. Plant a nice mast, rigging and sail and set off towards the unknown.

These are logical myths. And there is nothing more crazy than logic. But it’s magic because it makes us move. Not too often against each other, I hope.

Thursday January 24, 2008 – 11:02pm (EET)

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THE MYTH OF ICARUS AND ICARIA (1)
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When the Ionians who of course knew well the myths of the ‘Circle of Theseus’, came from Miletus and settled in Ikaria in the 7th century B.C. or while they were sailing past and round it, they must have observed the resemblance of the island’s Phoenician name, Ikor, (most of the Aegean islands bear Phoenician names) to the name of Ikaros (Icarus) and they must have told their brothers, the Athenians. As the Phoenicians weren’t there anymore to contradict them, the Athenians thought: Nice! We can complete the myth of Deadalus and Icarus. That place must have been where Icarus fell and drowned! There is wild wind-beaten sea around it, called “Sea of Ikor”? That’s it!
And so you have an entire sea and an entire island dragged out of nothingness and into the Ionian universe: “The place where Icarus fell” = Island Icarus (in Thucydides) = Ikaria (in the archives of Venice and to the present day).
The myth was a great one and the Ikarians were lucky to have acquired it. Even Nero the mad Roman emperor loved that story and he had tried to adapt and stage set it in the theater! Only that he was soon short of actors because the play was too realistic. The Icaruses dropped themselves from the ceiling and died!
Meanwhile the Ikarians worked on their myth and even claimed they had found the tomb of Icarus. In fact it is said that they showed it to visitors in the Roman time (‘tourism’ as we know it was born exactly then).

Thursday January 24, 2008 – 11:05pm (EET)

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THE MYTH OF ICARUS AND ICARIA (2)
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So it was all propaganda, you will say. Of course it was. Isn’t it all? Those myths were heavy with propaganda and partiotic stuff. What else is a myth after all if not a way to turn reality the way we want it?

I find this fascinating. The mind connects and works with whatever finds handy.

Cabet and the utopians started and social conditions made so as today the Myth of Icarus is associated with the idea of Freedom. Since the 19th century people refer to it as “The Flight of Icarus” rather than “The Fall of Icarus”. Ikaria again takes advantage. By some game of coincidence, it so happened that its inhabitants have never been slaves to nobody, were never invaded, lived primitive perhaps, but free –sometimes (good times) carefree. “Welcome to the Island of Icarus” reads the big sign in the harbour of the capital. Agios Kirikos. Does it mean “This is the site of the most famous flying accident in the world”?
No. For the people I know at least, it means (consciously, unconsciously or subconsciously) “Welcome to the Island of Freedom”.

The Island of Freedom… What a heavy weight our own propaganda has put on our shoulders!

Why couldn’t we rather have something lighter and more neutral like “Welcome to the Island of Windmills” instead?
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Thursday January 24, 2008 – 11:09pm (EET)

Είπα στο
http://www.flickr.com/groups/ikaria/discuss/72157603772508112/
ότι θα γράψω τα παραπάνω και στα Ελληνικά, ε;
Ε, λοιπόν πολύ αμφιβάλλω…

Thursday January 24, 2008 – 11:11pm (EET)

Οχι μωρε. Αστο. Δεν χρειαζεται. Τρεχα γυρευε – που λες κι εσυ…
«Το Νησι της Ελευθεριας» -αυτο μονο ας μεινει. Πραγματι, τι μεγαλο βαρος.
«Το Νησι της Ισοτητας» -να προσθεσω εγω (αν και ασχετο με το μυθο). Κι αυτο ειναι βαρος.
Χριστε μου ευτυχως που υπαρχει το κρασι!

Friday January 25, 2008 – 04:22am (PST)

«Με το κεφάλι δεμένο μέσα σε επιδέσμους; Μη χολοσκάς. Μπορείς τώρα να φτιάξεις ένα ωραίο σκάφος…»
Χαχαχα – Μ’ άρεσε πολύ!

Saturday January 26, 2008 – 02:02pm (EET)

All propaganda?
Of the muses, children of Memory, perhaps.
Reality the way we want it?
No, I think it’s reality the way we don’t want it.
Think of Oedipus (Tiresias: ‘What made me forget? I never should have come.’)

Or Agamemnon returning home. Or Odysseus for that matter.
There is a political dimension, but you can’t limit it to just that!

Thursday February 14, 2008 – 12:20am (CET)

But now I’ve argued with AKK it looks like I don’t appreciate him setting out the myth and so much background for us.

So to cover up the argumentativeness, can I add Auden’s poem?

About suffering they were never wrong,
The Old Masters; how well, they understood
Its human position; how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;
How, when the aged are reverently, passionately waiting
For the miraculous birth, there always must be
Children who did not specially want it to happen, skating
On a pond at the edge of the wood:
They never forgot
That even the dreadful martyrdom must run its course
Anyhow in a corner, some untidy spot
Where the dogs go on with their doggy life and the torturer’s horse
Scratches its innocent behind on a tree.
In Breughel’s Icarus, for instance: how everything turns away
Quite leisurely from the disaster; the ploughman may
Have heard the splash, the forsaken cry,
But for him it was not an important failure; the sun shone
As it had to on the white legs disappearing into the green
Water; and the expensive delicate ship that must have seen
Something amazing, a boy falling out of the sky,
had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on.

Thursday February 14, 2008 – 10:53am (CET)

Simon G, maybe AKK should have put the word ‘propaganda’ between quotes. Yet for the Greeks, politics has run in their veins since always, so terms like this sound much less heavy. They are part of the culture.

I don’t know why, the epigram on Aeschylus grave came in my mind. It didn’t read anything about him being a big shot playwright. It read «The long curly haired Persians will remember his valour in battle». The poet wanted to be remembered as the young soldier who had been and had fought for the freedom of his city in Marathon.

Thursday February 14, 2008 – 11:33am (PST)

Heh heh heh! You caught me :)) Auden’s poem was behind my choice of Brughel’s painting to go with Nana’s hilarious interview of DT.

Thursday February 14, 2008 – 11:40am (PST)

You are right. I over-simplified. Put ***propaganda*** in many quotes.

Auden?

Friday February 15, 2008 – 02:04pm (EET)


Μύθοι για την Ικαρία : Ο ΜΥΘΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΙΚΑΡΟΥ


(In English)

(Μια συνέντευξη με τον Άπιστο Θωμά)
Ο ΜΥΘΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΙΚΑΡΟΥ

Είναι η Ικαρία ο τόπος που έπεσε ο Ίκαρος;

Δεν μπορώ να σου πω. Δεν είχα γεννηθεί τότε και δεν υπάρχει βίντεο που να δείχνει το ατυχές περιστατικό. Το το πιο κοντινό που έχουμε σαν βίντεο είναι ο σχετικός πίνακας του Μπρύγκελ, όμως δεν είναι αρκετή απόδειξη. Είναι μια ελαιογραφία που έγινε στην Ολλανδία, πολλά μίλια μακριά από το Αιγαίο και πάρα πολλούς αιώνες αργότερα. Είναι γεγονός όμως ότι ο πινακας μοιάζει σαν κάποια ερασιτεχνικά βίντεο που ενώ κεντράρουν σε μια αθώα σκηνή, τυχαίνει και πιάνουν ένα τραγικό περιστατικό που συμβαίνει την ίδια στιγμή στον ίδιο τόπο. Ξέρετε, απ’ αυτά που γίνονται διάσημα και οι δημιουργοί τους τα πουλούν στα μήντια για πολλά λεφτά. Ο πίνακας μοιάζει με βίντεο, όμως δυστυχώς δεν είναι βίντεο. Είναι μια ελαιογραφία -μια καλλιτεχνική φαντασίωση, με άλλα λόγια.

Ωστόσο, όλος ο κόσμος λέει ότι στην Ικαρία έπεσε ο Ίκαρος.

Ο κόσμος λέει πολλά. Για παράδειγμα, κάθε εγκυκλοπαίδεια και ταξιδιωτικός οδηγός γράφουν : «Η Ικαρία, γνωστή από τον μύθο της πτώσης του Ικάρου, κτλ.» Οι άνθρωποι αγαπούν τις ιστορίες, ειδικά άμα έχουν σχέση με δυστυχήματα.

Ναι, αλλά το όνομα του νησιού;

Α, τα ονόματα μπορεί να σημαίνουν κάτι ή μπορεί να μην σημαίνουν και τίποτα. Μπορούμε να πάμε στον ληξίαρχο και να αλλάξουμε το όνομά μας όπως γουστάρουμε και να κάνουμε διάφορους συσχετισμούς. Ή το όνομα που έχουμε, να του αλλάξουμε το νόημα και τη προέλευση, όπως μας βολεύει. Για παράδειγμα, υπάρχει ένα Ελληνικό νησί, η Κάρπαθος, που συμβαίνει να έχει το ίδιο όνομα με τα Καρπάθια όρη στη Τρανσυλβανία της Ρουμανίας. Οι Καρπάθιοι (οι νησιώτες), ας πούμε, είναι ελεύθεροι να συσχετίσουν το όνομα του νησιού τους με τον Δράκουλα. Να ισχυριστούν, για παράδειγμα, ότι βουνά της Τρανσυλβανίας πήραν το όνομά τους από το νησί τους. Επιπλέον να πουν ότι ο Δράκουλας είχε γεννηθεί στην Κάρπαθο και αφού ως παιδί ρούφηξε όλο το αίμα από τους κατοίκους, όταν μεγάλωσε, πέταξε (βρυκόλακας ήταν) σε ένα μεγαλύτερο μέρος με μεγαλύτερο πληθυσμό και ατελείωτες προμήθειες αίμα. Παρ’ όλα αυτά, σήμερα, ακόμα κι αν οι Καρπάθιοι (οι νησιώτες) ήθελαν να κάνουν έναν τέτοιο συσχετισμό, είναι πάρα πολύ αργά. Οι Ρουμάνοι έχουν εκμεταλλευτεί στο έπακρο τον μύθο του Δράκουλα και το κάστρο του είναι η μεγαλύτερη τουριστική ατραξιόν της χώρας τους. Θα γινόταν τρομερό διπλωματικό επεισόδιο ανάμεσα στην Ελλάδα και τη Ρουμανία, αν οι Καρπάθιοι (οι νησιώτες) έβγαιναν κι έλεγαν το νησί τους ήταν ο τόπος γέννησης του Δράκουλα. Είναι βλέπετε, το γόητρο και τόσα πολλά λεφτά στη μέση.

Τότε λοιπόν ο συσχετισμός Ικαρίας και Ικάρου είναι ένα ψέμα;

Δεν είπα ότι είναι ψέμα. Όλο που είπα είναι ότι δεν ξέρω. Δεν έχουμε βίντεο και δεν έχουμε αξιόπιστους αυτόπτες μάρτυρες, το BBC, το CNN, το SKY NEWS και όλα αυτά. Ενδεχομένως υπήρξε κάποιο ερασιτεχνικό βίντεο (που τράβηξε π.χ. ο ξάδελφος του ζευγολάτη που φαίνεται πρώτο πλάνο στον πίνακα) ή μπορεί να ήταν μια δοκιμαστική λήψη για κάποιο ντοκυμαντέρ με θέμα την αγροτική ζωή. Επειδή είχε συλλάβει τη «Σκηνή της Πτώσης», γι’ αυτό φαίνεται διασώθηκε μέχρι τον 16ο αιώνα και το είδε ο Μπρύγκελ και το μετέφερε στον διάσημο πίνακά του. Όλο κι όλο που λέω είναι ότι πρέπει να βρούμε και να δούμε το αρχικό βίντεο για να ήμαστε σίγουροι για το γεγονός. Μπορεί να είναι κάτι σαν αυτό.

 

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Την άλλη εβδομάδα νέο επεισόδιο της συνέντευξης με τον Άπιστο Θωμά.

 

Θέμα : «Πολιτική Ικαρία» : Κόκκινος Βράχος, Ξερονήσι, Νησί του Διαβόλου, Νησί της Εξορίας.

 

Αθηνά Σκ.

Comments

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Παιδιά, δεν τρελαθήκαμε, οκ; Πλάκα κάνουμε. Καρναβάλι είναι, εντάξει; Μην παρεξηγηθεί κανένας, οκ; Είναι ξενέρωμα που το λέω, αλλά πρέπει να το πω γιατί θα ακολουθήσουν κι άλλα χ-ει-ρο-τε-ρα. Ο «Άπιστος Θωμάς» είναι στα φόρτε του…

Monday February 12, 2007 – 11:05pm (EET)

Ωραίος ο «Άπιστος Θωμάς»…περιμένουμε τα επόμενα!!!

Tuesday February 13, 2007 – 06:27pm (EET)

Ευχαριστουμε Α. Αν δεις ποτε αυτο το αρχαιο βιντεο (π.χ. στο youtube), να μας κανεις ενημερες, παρακαλουμε. Ομως πρεπει να φαινεται πως ειναι η Ικαρια απο πισω -να φαινεται στο βαθος π.χ η αρχαια Μαντουβαλα η ακομα καλιτερα το πλοιο «Δημητρουλα» (σιγουρα υπαρχει απο τοτε)
KΑΛΗ ΑΠΟΚΡΙΑ!!!

Thursday February 15, 2007 – 01:10am (PST)


ΓΙΑΤΙ ΣΤΗΝ ΙΚΑΡΙΑ; Μια συνέντευξη με την Ελένη.


 
«Στην Ικαρία πήγα για να μείνω μόνη μου, με την έννοια του να αποφύγω
τον ανθρώπινο θόρυβο. Είναι για μένα το νησί της ελεγχόμενης μοναξιάς
Πήγα για να ξεκουραστώ, αλλά και να δουλέψω ένα σενάριο.
Έχει ανοιχτούς ορίζοντες τριγύρω.
Σου ανοίγουν τη φαντασία. Επιπλέον, βρίσκεται εντελώς στην περίμετρο
των εξελίξεων, χωρίς όμως να είναι κι απ' έξω. Είναι σαν δορυφόρος
σε τροχιά, άρα λοιπόν μια πολύ καλή θέση για κάποια σαν κι εμένα
που η δουλειά μου είναι να κατεβάζω ιδέες...»

 

(Εδώ Νανά Η παρακάτω συνέντευξη σίγουρα θα ξεπαραμυθιάσει όσους θέλουν να πιστεύουν την Ικαρία ώς «νησί της αφασίας». Αυτό μόνο είχα να πω αντί για εισαγωγή. Επίσης να πω ότι έκανα πάρα πολλές επεμβασεις στο συντακτικό για να βγαίνει νόημα σαν συνεχής λόγος. Το αναφέρω αυτό για να μη νομίσει κανείς πως μιλάμε έτσι όταν ήμαστε μεταξύ μας…)
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– Γειαάαα…

– Γειά σου.

Μετά από δύο χρόνια σκληρής δουλειάς στο εξωτερικό, πήγες και πέρασες ένα ολόκληρο χειμώνα στην Ικαρία. Γιατί στην Ικαρία;

– Στην Ικαρία πήγα για να μείνω μόνη μου, με την έννοια του να αποφύγω τον ανθρώπινο θόρυβο. Είναι για μένα το νησί της ελεγχόμενης μοναξιάς. Πήγα για να ξεκουραστώ, αλλά και να δουλέψω ένα σενάριο. Έχει ανοιχτούς ορίζοντες τριγύρω. Σου ανοίγουν τη φαντασία. Επιπλέον, βρίσκεται εντελώς στην περίμετρο των εξελίξεων, χωρίς όμως να είναι κι απ’ έξω. Είναι σαν δορυφόρος σε τροχιά, άρα λοιπόν μια πολύ καλή θέση για κάποια σαν κι εμένα που η δουλειά μου είναι να κατεβάζω ιδέες. Αυτό, δηλαδή το κατέβασμα ιδεών, μοιάζει να είναι κάτι σαν εθνικό σπορ για τους ντόπιους. Όλοι έχουν διάφορες απόψεις για τα πάντα. Υπάρχει μια φιλοσοφική θεώρηση της πραγματικότητας, ένα συνεχές ψάξιμο. Χρειάστηκε μεγάλη πειθαρχία για να μπορέσω να τελειώσω τη δουλειά μου χωρίς να παρασυρθώ σ’ αυτό το παιχνίδι. Ή να μη με παρασύρει το τοπίο και να με ρουφήξουν οι γνωστοί αργοί χρόνοι που προκύπτουν και επιβάλλονται από αυτό το τοπίο. Όταν την τελείωσα, εντάξει τότε αφέθηκα να παρασυρθώ.
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Δηλαδή χρησιμοποίησες την Ικαρία σαν βάση, αλλά δεν ήθελες να σε απορροφήσει η Ικαρία;

– Ακριβώς έτσι που το λες. Για να μην μπερδεύονται με τη δουλειά μου, ό,τι έβλεπα και ότι σκεφτόμουν για την Ικαρία τα έγραφα στο μπλογκ ή και στο φλικρ. Ομολογώ ότι χρειάστηκε αρκετή πειθαρχία. Ήταν σαν να άλλαζα κασέττες στο μυαλό μου και αρκετές φορές βραχυκυκλώθηκα. Ιδίως ύστερα από μεγάλες βόλτες έξω στα βουνά και στα χωριά γύριζα και σκεφτόμουν μόνο ό,τι είδα κι άκουσα. Δεν ήθελα να κάνω τίποτα άλλο. Ευτυχώς όμως αγαπώ τη δουλειά μου, τους φίλους μου εκεί, αλλά και τα χρήματα και την ανεξαρτησία που μου παρέχουν κι έτσι γρήγορα επανερχόμουν στην τάξη.
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ikaria 26des
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Πόσα μπορείς να αποκαλύψεις εδώ για το σενάριο που βγήκε;

– Να μη νομίσει κανείς πως είναι κάτι φοβερά πρωτότυπο. Έχει σχέση με το τρόπο που οι γενικές πολιτικές, οι ιδέες και οι μόδες επηρεάζουν ένα μικρό τόπο. Πως χωνεύονται και δουλεύονται μέσα σ’ αυτόν τον τόπο, πως διαστρεβλώνονται αν θες ή πως γίνονται καλύτερες. Πως «υλοποιούνται» όπως λένε οι τεχνοκράτες. Αλλά και το αντίστροφο συμβαίνει και αυτό είναι το ζουμί του σεναρίου. Πως ένας μικρός τόπος μπορεί να επηρεάσει με τη σειρά του, αν όχι τις γενικές εξελίξεις, τουλάχιστον μερικούς ανθρώπους που ορισμένοι ανάμεσά τους μπορεί να είναι σημαντικοί άνθρωποι με τον τρόπο τους και μπορούν να επηρεάσουν τις εξελίξεις.
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Είναι σχετικά με τη 17Ν;

– Όχι, όχι … (τρανταχτά γέλια) …
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Πόσο σχέση έχει με την Ικαρία;

– Ελάχιστη σχέση. Το αγαπημένο μας νησί λειτούργησε απλά ως έμπνευση. Η ιστορία διαδραματίζεται σε ένα άλλο μέρος που μοιάζει πολύ, αλλά δεν είναι νησί. Μετά από τόσα ταξίδια με χαρά μπορώ να πω ότι υπάρχουν κι άλλες Ικαρίες στον κόσμο, και μάλιστα στην Ευρώπη που δεν την φανταζόμαστε και τόσο αντιφατική κι εξωτική. Είναι π.χ. κάποιες μακρινές επαρχίες, κάποιες κοιλάδες ανάμεσα σε βουνά, και κάποιες συνοικίες σε αρκετές πόλεις.
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Πρόπερσι περπάτησες ολόκληρο το κομμάτι του Ε4 από την Ουγγαρία στην Ελλάδα. Σ’ αυτή τη συγκεκριμένη διαδρομή, ας πούμε, πόσες «Ικαρίες» συνάντησες;

– Πάρα πολλές. Δεν φαντάζεσαι πόσες. Απλά η μόνη διαφορά της Ικαρίας που ξέρουμε, είναι ότι είναι νησί, όχι μεταφορικά, αλλά πραγματικά. Έχει πολύ συγκεκριμμένα αυστηρά γεωγραφικά όρια, πράγμα το οποίο είναι πιο εύληπτο και παραγωγικό. Από την άλλη πλευρά αυτά ακριβώς τα όρια είναι υπερβολικά αυστηρά καθορισμένα. Η βασική ιδέα θα ήταν ξεκάθαρη, όμως η υπόθεση θα ήταν πολύ περιορισμένη, πολύ φτωχή. Θα έβγαινε σαν ηθογραφία και φολκλόρ, πράγμα το οποίο ήθελα να αποφύγω. Κοίτα όμως… μπορεί να μην έκανα ένα σενάριο με σκηνικό την Ικαρία, ωστόσο, μετά που το σενάριο τελείωσε, σαν παράπλευρο κέρδος από τόσες πεζοπορίες στα βουνά και τα λαγκάδια, βγήκαν κάποια πολύ ωραία παραμύθια.
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Είναι αυτό που είπες πιο πριν, δηλαδή ότι τελικά αφέθηκες να παρασυρθείς;
– Πάντα έγραφα ή διηγιόμουν μικρές ιστορίες. Αν παρασύρθηκα, ήταν ότι αυτή τη φορά, έχοντας όλο τον χρόνο και το χώρο δικό μου, σκηνοθέτησα τα παραμύθια μου και τα δοκίμασα με τον εαυτό μου. Στα φυσικά σκηνικά του νησιού παράστησα διάφορες κλασικές μορφές όπως τη «Λαφίνα» και τη «Κόρη Ξανθή» από δύο Ελληνικά δημοτικά τραγούδια που λατρεύω, έπαιξα την Οφηλία του Σέξπηρ, τη «Κόρη του Κάστρου» (αυτό είναι από την Ικαρία), και από τις μοντέρνες μορφές έπαιξα τη «γκρουβαλίνα» στη Χάλαρη – (γέλια)
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Γιατί όχι και την «καλή τρομοκράτισα»;
– Ό,τι άλλο θες αλλά τέτοιες φαντασιώσεις ποτέ δεν είχα, γλυκιά μου. Ούτε καλόγρια, ούτε ιεραπόστολος, άλλωστε, πράγματα τα οποία εμένα μου ακούγονται σχετικά. Με ξενερώνουν -για να μη σου πω με απελπίζουν. Δεν γουστάρω ούτε να προσεύχονται, ούτε να πυροβολούν για μένα, εν ονόματί μου και για λογαριασμό μου -για να με σώσουν χωρίς να με έχουν ρωτήσει.
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Οικολόγος όμως ναι;

– Ναι. Αλλά για μένα, όχι για τους άλλους. Όμως γιατί να παίξω αυτό τον ρόλο; Τι άλλο ήμουν παρά μια «οικολόγος» έτσι όπως κυκλοφορούσα στην Ικαρία; Με τον βιολογικό πατατόκηπό μου, με τους ατελείωτους περιπάτους στα βουνά, με τα χορτάρια που μάζευα, κτλ. κτλ. ήμουν ας πούμε μια οικολόγος. Αλλά δεν νομίζεις ότι αυτός ο όρος έχει καταντήσει πια τελείως ηλίθιος και στενόχωρος; Οι μισές Καριωτίνες γυναίκες που ξέρω είναι «οικολόγοι». Ε, και λοιπόν; Δεν είναι ρόλος αυτός για παραμύθι. Είναι μια αληθινή στάση ζωής.
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Έπαιξες και τον Ίκαρο;

– Όχι. Πρώτον γιατί ήταν άντρας και δεύτερον γιατί έχει κακό τέλος. Από φτερωτά, έπαιξα τη Σεραφίνα, μια αγγέλισσα δικής μου επινόησης (γέλια … παύση…)
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Θα κάνεις κάτι με αυτές τις μικρές ιστορίες τις σχετικές με την Ικαρία; Επαγγελματικά εννοώ.

– Η Ικαρία, ξέρεις, βολεύει πάρα πολύ για τέτοιες RPG φάσεις. Πρώτον κανείς δεν σε παρεξηγεί, άμα είσαι εντάξει και δεν προσβάλεις και δεν ενοχλείς κανέναν, δεύτερον απουσιάζει εντελώς το κυριλέ λάιφσταιλ. Δεν έχεις πρόβλημα να εμφανιστείς στον μπακάλη με σκόνη στα ρούχα και ξερά χορτάρια στα μαλλιά. Μπορώ να σου πω πως το θεωρούν τιμητικό κιόλας…
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Μήπως γιατί έτσι δείχνεις ότι έχεις «τριβή» με τη φύση του νησιού; (γέλια)

– Ναι, αρκεί να μην είσαι έτσι όλη την ώρα. Αυτό θα ήταν προσβολή και «γκρουβαλοποίηση των ηθών». Έτσι εγώ για παράδειγμα μπορεί τη μια φορά να ήμουν ιδρωμένη με τα κουρέλια και την άλλη εμφανιζόμουν καθαρή-καθαρή, χτενισμένη και ντυμένη με ένα πολύ ωραίο σετάκι απογευματινό… (γέλια)
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Καλή πληροφορία αυτή. Χρήσιμη για μερικούς-μερικούς για να ξέρουν. Λοιπόν ας ξαναγυρίσουμε στην ερώτησή μου.

– Ομολογώ ότι επίτηδες ξέφυγα από το θέμα. Αυτές οι ιστορίες είναι προσωπικά, δικά μου πράγματα. Μπορεί να τις διηγηθώ προφορικά ή να δώσω ιδέες σε άλλους, αλλά δεν θα τα κάνω «δουλειά»: σεναριακή αφήγηση με σκηνογραφικές οδηγίες και διαλόγους. Είναι η δική μου ευεργετική σχιζοφρένεια και θέλω να μείνουν όπως τα φαντάζομαι εγώ και να τα αλλάζω κάθε τόσο, ανάλογα με τη διάθεση. Είναι οι κοριτσίστικες ουτοπίες μου και δεν τις πουλάω. Όμως δεν ξέρω κιόλας, μπορεί άμα γεράσω, να αλλάξω γνώμη και να τα βάλω στο χαρτί τελικά. ‘Η μπορεί το περιβάλλον της Ικαρίας να κινδυνεύει να καταστραφεί τόσο πολύ, ή να παρουσιαστεί κάποιος άλλος κίνδυνος, οπότε θα γίνω «στρατευμένη λογοτέχνις» και να τους πάρει όλους ο διάβολος (γέλια). Τώρα όμως με το μωρό δεν σκέφτομαι πια τέτοιες ακτιβιστικές φάσεις. Το μωρό μου είναι αρκετός ακτιβισμός από μόνο του –
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(Τα τελευταία αυτά ειπώθηκαν ενώ το Σιδεράκι είχε αρχίσει να κλαίει.
Κι έτσι εδώ διακόπηκε και τελείωσε η συνέντευξη.
Γειάααα…. Τα λέμε πάλι.)


Αθηνά Σκ.
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Όπως θα προσέξατε, σ’ αυτή τη συνέντευξη δεν υπάρχουν λινκς για φωτογραφίες και άλλα συμπληρωματικά στοιχεία. Είστε ελεύθεροι /ες να χρησιμοποιήσετε τη φαντασία σας.
Monday January 29, 2007 – 09:47am (EET)
Χελόου, Ι λαβ γιου, γουον’τ γιου τελ μη γιορ νέιμ.
Χελόου, Ι λαβ γιου, λετ μη τζαμπ ιν γιορ γκέιμ.
… ΧΕΛΟ-ΟΥ!
Wednesday January 31, 2007 – 09:57am (EET)
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